How come you say that? Genuine question. Seemed to me like the people who did or supported the mass murders of Leftists were still in power.
Ask anyone in Indonesia if their country is fascist. Or better yet, go visit Indonesia and check by yourself.
“Ask all the people in the country who would never say that out loud about their country as they’re under duress as saying that about their country will get them killed in their country”
Yeah, good plan
I always talk shit about my country (Indonesia), but Indonesia really is not a fascist state anymore. Seriously. Your information might be out of date as of 2023. Just tell me why you think Indonesia is a fascist state and I'll see if it's still applicable now.
Hey, I don’t have any information about Indonesia specifically; all I’m saying is that if you ask someone if the country they live in is fascist, you’ll get one of three “no”s:
They’ll say no, because it isn’t.
They’ll say no, because it is but they like it, and they know what a bad connotation the word has.
They’ll say no, because it is and they don’t like it, but they know what a ban connotation the word has and they don’t want to be locked up for it.
When you kill people who say otherwise... all there is left is people who praise you.. either out of fear or out of stupidity.
This is like saying Germany is a fascist state because of the Nazi which are already gone a long time ago.
Edit: why the downvotes? The people referenced in the Act of Killings documentary are either no longer in power or long dead. The golfing dude who look important are just head of some gang organization who have a bad reputation among Indonesian people that know him (most don't), not an elected government official. How is Indonesia a fascist state when every election periods we have two presidential candidates with very close vote counts?
The AFD disagree with you
Digital nomad in Indonesia here. People are friendly, food is great, scenery is beautiful, and weather is cool but not cold this time of year. I wouldn't live here full time, but I wouldn't live anywhere full time (because I am a nomad!).
I don't agree with many of the laws here but that is true of pretty much everywhere.
It's a tropical country with great food, welcoming people and beautiful landscapes, so I can imagine a few reasons why. The laws and proneness to natural disasters are less than ideal, though.
The olds rule the world.
The only step up is a full on fascist country like China or russia.
You are confusing fascism with imperialism. Netiher China or Russia is fascist state despite of what some shitty non-scientific sources say. However it's not hard to see increase of fascist movement in Russia (which could become a huge problem in post war Russia no matter the result of the war), but also in some other European states or even USA (Republicans come to mind).
The nationalist authoritarian does seem to have power in China for sure, but doesn't seem to the primary power there.
Indonesia is just bizarre. They've got the most draconian and nonsensical laws. The only step up is a full on fascist country like China or russia.
Other than being cheap, I don't understand why so many digi nomads want to live there.
I don't know how much you know about the political history of Indonesia, but it's already pretty much a fascist state.
Check out The Act of Killing. It's brutal.
It was, it no longer is.
How come you say that? Genuine question. Seemed to me like the people who did or supported the mass murders of Leftists were still in power.
Ask anyone in Indonesia if their country is fascist. Or better yet, go visit Indonesia and check by yourself.
“Ask all the people in the country who would never say that out loud about their country as they’re under duress as saying that about their country will get them killed in their country”
Yeah, good plan
I always talk shit about my country (Indonesia), but Indonesia really is not a fascist state anymore. Seriously. Your information might be out of date as of 2023. Just tell me why you think Indonesia is a fascist state and I'll see if it's still applicable now.
Hey, I don’t have any information about Indonesia specifically; all I’m saying is that if you ask someone if the country they live in is fascist, you’ll get one of three “no”s:
When you kill people who say otherwise... all there is left is people who praise you.. either out of fear or out of stupidity.
This is like saying Germany is a fascist state because of the Nazi which are already gone a long time ago.
Edit: why the downvotes? The people referenced in the Act of Killings documentary are either no longer in power or long dead. The golfing dude who look important are just head of some gang organization who have a bad reputation among Indonesian people that know him (most don't), not an elected government official. How is Indonesia a fascist state when every election periods we have two presidential candidates with very close vote counts?
The AFD disagree with you
Digital nomad in Indonesia here. People are friendly, food is great, scenery is beautiful, and weather is cool but not cold this time of year. I wouldn't live here full time, but I wouldn't live anywhere full time (because I am a nomad!).
I don't agree with many of the laws here but that is true of pretty much everywhere.
It's a tropical country with great food, welcoming people and beautiful landscapes, so I can imagine a few reasons why. The laws and proneness to natural disasters are less than ideal, though.
The olds rule the world.
You are confusing fascism with imperialism. Netiher China or Russia is fascist state despite of what some shitty non-scientific sources say. However it's not hard to see increase of fascist movement in Russia (which could become a huge problem in post war Russia no matter the result of the war), but also in some other European states or even USA (Republicans come to mind).
The nationalist authoritarian does seem to have power in China for sure, but doesn't seem to the primary power there.