Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024

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Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned about a possible drop in Black voter turnout for the 2024 presidential election, according to party insiders. The worries arise from a 10% decrease in Black voter turnout in the 2022 midterms compared to 2018, a more substantial decline than any other racial or ethnic group, as per a Washington Post analysis. The decline was particularly significant among younger and male Black voters in crucial states like Georgia, where Democrats aim to mobilize Black voter support for President Biden in 2024.

The Democratic party has acknowledged the need to bolster their outreach efforts to this demographic. W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, highlighted the need for Democrats to refocus their attention on Black male voters, who have shown lower levels of engagement. In response, Biden's team has pledged to communicate more effectively about the benefits that the Black community has reaped under Biden's administration, according to Cedric L. Richmond, a senior advisor at the Democratic National Committee.

However, Black voter advocates have identified deep-seated issues affecting Black voter turnout. Many Black men reportedly feel detached from the political process and uninspired by both parties' policies. Terrance Woodbury, CEO of HIT Strategies, a polling firm, suggests that the Democratic party's focus on countering Trump and Republican extremism doesn't motivate younger Black men as much as arguments focused on policy benefits. Concerns are growing within the party that if they fail to address these issues, disenchanted Black voters might either abstain or, potentially, be swayed by Republican messaging on certain key issues.

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Because he's over a decade past senior citizen.

Who the fuck do you think your constituents are? All retired senior citizens?

If a 35 year old was running, I'd vote for them literally for the age alone, providing there were no fascism ties.

We need to stop electing people that have not worked a job in over 60 years. It's a fucking joke.

I will vote for anyone under 40. I will NEVER vote for a senior citizen.

Fuck this bullshit.

Mother fucker if Biden is the not-Trump option then you better vote for his senior citizen ass. Elections have consequences. Be idealistic in the primary but for fucks sake vote logically on election day.

Staying home or voting 3rd part/write in is a vote for Trump and is indirect violence against your fellow citizens and others around the world. How many more people would be alive today if we didn't have Trump purposely providing bad COVID information?

Lives are literally at stake. Hold your nose and pull the correct lever. It's simple harm reduction.

The maybe they should let us, I don't know, vote in a primary election for the person we want to run as the Democrat nominee?? Just forcing Biden on us, like wtf?

Remember Bernie, both times?

Well, like someone else said, vote for Bernie or whoever you like in the primaries, then go cast your anti-Trump vote on election day. If Trump gets back in you'll never get the opportunity to vote in a real presidential election again.

If Trump gets back in, America failed, not me. And I'm the fuck off to Canada.

Not voting for a senior citizen.

You, and everyone with your mindset, will have failed America.

No, see, that's not how democracy works.

That's how our FPTP system works. Twist yourself into a pretzel all you want. The reality is, if you want to preserve a functioning democracy in this country and have even the slightest chance of improving it one day, you have only one real option (hint: it's not a third party and it's definitely not the orange fascist).

No, I'm saying the people voting for who they want and it leading to a failure of the nation is not a failure of the voters, it's a failure of the system. It is a failure of the nation and it is a failure of democracy.

The system will fail eventually regardless tbh. I understand your plight. These political discussions really make me lose faith in people entirely. I didn't vote my entire life I said fuck this. I vote now only because I have the privilege to get to the ballot. The DNC seems shady. I'm thinking about just running for local office, but I'd probably get arrested tbh. I fully agree with you though. The system is rigged by definition. I've seen enough of the interworkings to be utterly disillusioned. But we are only a few people bringing light to a very dark place. It will take time that frankly we probably dont have. Stay alive!

You think Canada is just going to take all the Americans who want to leave? That's not how it works.

LOL you're stuck here and don't even realize it yet.

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if Biden is the not-Trump option then you better vote for his senior citizen ass.

I think part of the reason why people feel they don't have a choice is because the DNC seems to have just chosen biden instead of letting any other democratic candidate have a chance at the nominee.

Staying home or voting 3rd part/write in is a vote for Trump

no, it's not. it's abstaining or voting for someone who isn't trump.

If a candidate wants my vote, they need to earn it. I've done enough of voting against, and from now on I'm only voting for.

What I see is that Democrats can't put up any candidates who are actually worth voting for and then to top it off they push insulting slogans like "Vote Blue No Matter Who." If other Democratic voters really want to swallow that with no pushback, that is their business. But I'm not doing it anymore.

But don't you dare go and demand who I vote for while claiming the consequences of not would result in some imagined violence. It's bad enough when the DNC is lying to me but then I have to read nonsense takes of Liberals making threats because they've scared themselves to death with their own propaganda.

But don't you dare go and demand who I vote for while claiming the consequences of not would result in some imagined violence.

It's not imagined. It's already happened and you still don't care. Is voting really that difficult for you? Hundreds of millions of people but you'll only participate if the leader of everyone gets to be your first pick. That's some childish shit right there.

Mother fucker, no. I'll vote how I want, and not how some one else tells me.

That's what makes it my vote.

That's how you piss away your vote and end up with a second Trump term...

It's also how you get no climate action.

Not voting for a senior citizen. Go cast your own vote and quit telling people how to cast theirs.

Um... Inflation Reduction Act?

I just think it's tremendously stupid to attack the Democratic party from the left and then cast a vote (or fail to vote altogether) that makes it more likely to end up with a Republican government that is even further right. Seriously. It's fucking braindead. Your options are mildly left, or far right. Far left ain't on the table. So pick the mildly left. Then in the next PRIMARY, vote far left (or young, whatever it is you want).

Where the fuck did I attack the Democratic party?

I said I'm not voting for senior citizens, or fascists.

Fucking learn to read before you come out swinging, dingus.

Falsely implying there has been no climate action, vehemently opposing their candidate over his age, and refusing to vote for them seems a bit aggro toward the party 🤷‍♂️

Doing too little too late is about as good as no climate action. Democrats' solution is to throw money at private entities who are looking to maximize profits, not saving the environment.

We failed to declare a climate emergency. I don't trust senior citizens to make the right calls about our future.

Again, I am attacking senior citizens in office. I am saying I won't vote for them.

I don't care how you feel about that. I'm not sure why you think I do.

I don't expect you to give a shit about my feelings. Was just hoping maybe you or someone reading this might come around to the idea that realistically, there are only two options outcomes, and we should avoid the fascistic one at all costs.

For the record, my feelings are that I'd really like to see younger people in office too, but I'm not gonna shoot myself (and the country) in the foot over it.

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Then you’re helping to elect Trump. Simple as that.

wrong. the only people who help elect trump are the people who vote for trump.

The reason we're in this mess is because of political tribalism. If we actually want different candidates, we gotta vote for them.

Cool, do that in the next primary, but for now let's pick one of the real options on the table.

I'm doing it in these primaries. Why would I take a primary off?

Well, that's good. Unfortunately lots of people don't vote in the primary, and then complain about their options in the general election.

Not true.

But even if it were, then the system is fucked and it deserves to burn.

This is ridiculous. If you can’t have it exactly your way then just elect a litteral authoritarian dictator and cause the end of the country? Ok dude I guess you do you

You sound like you dont like democracy.

Democracy is your way or burn it down?

No. You don’t like democracy - you’re helping to elect a literal dictator!

No I'm voting for who Id like to vote for.

That's how democracy works.

Sorry you're not enjoying democracy.

We have a two party system. You have two realistic choices. You can vote for Mickey Mouse if you want - he won’t become president.

Sorry you don’t understand how it works.

lol, no you're still not getting it.

In democracy, citizens voice opinions, even if they differ. Disagreement is expected and accepted. However, your frustration suggests discomfort with this democratic aspect. If you need clarification, all hope may be lost.

We have a two party system

i had 4 candidates on my last presidential ballot. i expect the same or more this time around.

Vivek is, to my knowledge, the youngest candidate. Although he's not my first choice, I think he has some solid arguments, and understanding of where the culture is at and the persisting issues in our government.

I said no to ties with fascists. So, hard, hard pass.

foggy

What makes him a fascist?

Support for Trump.

Literally, no brighter red flag in the history of fascism.

I'm not sure I've seen him express support for Trump.

What I have seen is him desiring to cut the presidential power, which is a weird move for a 'fascist' to try and limit their power...It seems like you're just throwing around the word 'fascist' towards people you don't like.

He is a massive trump supporter.

And no, lol, I'm not going to bother. If you drank the Kool aid you drank the Kool aid. Good luck etc.

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