lemmy.world blocked the largest piracy community in all of lemmy

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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/2881638

The largest piracy community is hosted over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked !piracy@lemmy.ml.

If this is a problem for you, I'd suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn't block it (such as lemm.ee).

edit:

An official announcement has been made:

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Might be worth remembering here that Lemmy instances, including .world are hosted by regular people. Not massive multinational companies worth billions who can engage the best legal talent around.

If Hollywood comes after a Lemmy instance, Holywood have a huge legal team and endless money. The Lemmy instance has some guy. They could quite literally destroy a persons life. With that in mind, I don't blame any instance owners for erring on the side of taking a stance that won't put them in the legal firing line.

Why would Hollywood come after them? It is not like people are sharing movies there. Posts there are etremely mild.

Sony Music is currently coming after DNS provider Quad9 for resolving a piracy related domain, and they've succeeded in two courts so far. At this point I don't think any copyright lawsuit is too stupid to happen.

Oh man I had forgotten about that thing, it'd be so awful if they end up never winning the case, I really like what Quad9 does and stands for

I'm not saying they are or aren't. I'm simply saying that we all know the big media companies go after people at the drop of a hat. They recently tried to get reddit to expose the identities of people discussing piracy over there. To their credit reddit told them no and defended themselves legally. And that's the issue. The media companies can accuse anyone of anything if it even slightly smells like piracy and the target has to legally defend themselves. This is fine if you're a multibillion valued company. Not so fine if you're just some guy who just wanted to run a Lemmy instance out of his own pocket.

For me, it looks like people are mad at the US defaultism of the decision.

I understand why. It makes for part of the users no sense as they are protected by the law. It looks like a US "shitshow". Countries are protecting the IP of the person, making it nearly impossible to pursue someone. Others have law allowing the use and the copy of copyrighted material for educational purposes. Some allow the download of copyrighted material.

It's the same with GDPR. Meta must comply. There is no exception because US defaultism.

And we can understand this point of view too. It's not binary as the US people think it is. It's more mixed depending of the country.


Generally, outside of this drama, on the internet, people are reclaiming they right and don't want the US "example" anymore. They want the internet following their local laws like the GDPR for Europeans. They have the right to claim it. Thanks to GDPR, mandatory usb-c, battery replacement and others laws in Europe and outside, the consciences of are awakened that the US is not the model to follow in terms of law on the internet and technologies.

This is a well reasoned answer. If this were my instance I would also ban communities linking to pirated software. A single lawsuit and lawyer bill for a regular guy, and that can fuck your life up all because you tried to run a decent community. I have a username I use for browsing lemmynsfw, I'll make one for browsing piracy related things too.

Best bet I think is to set up a non-profit limited liability type of company. Then at least there is a good chance the individual doesn't get fucked. (Ymmv depending on legal jurisdiction of course)

You still need expensive lawyers to defend yourself. Registering a LLC isn't a get out of jail free card and corporations don't shield you from personal criminal liability (unless you're rich, see comment about expensive lawyers).

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