Can NATO just say enough is enough? Attacking food storage will have as large of an effect as the use of a nuclear weapon. The loss in food supply, in theory, would be directly responsible for tens of thousands of starvation related deaths.
If all the previous war crimes weren't enough, one more isn't going to change anybody's mind. :(
Can NATO just say enough is enough?
and upset Putin? they're too afraid to.
NATO can say whatever they want, but they won't do anything.
NATO is a defensive pact, you fuck with one of us, you fuck with all of us. Ukraine isn't a member but I support it's application to join.
But the point her is that fucking with the food from Ukraine fucks with the rest.
It's not a direct attack on NATO though. If Russia launched a missile at the UK then it would be on like donkey kong.
NATO has stated that if nuclear weapons were used outside of NATO territory, they could income article 5 if nuclear fallout enters a territory.
Not a direct attack in that scenario, just consequences from an attack on a non-nato country, which starvation from a lack of food is also technically a consequence from an attack on a non-nato country.
So if I send a Nuke to Ukraine and affects all the border nations we act like oh look they didn't attack us....
Or poison a river that goes to other countries etc...
Or whatever...
So any attack that affect the redt but it's not direct is nothing....
This is stupid
1 nuke is launched, there's a VERY good chance every single nuke on Earth is launched. Literally everyone dies in that scenario. I agree, attacking the grainaries is evil, but it's several orders of magnitude less severe than a nuclear bomb. For instance, the 2 nukes dropped on Japan killed almost a quarter million people. Modern nuclear bombs are tens of times more powerful than Fat Man and Little Boy.
NATO is basically trying to get Ukraine killed at this point.
Russian atrocities never end. Don't ever forget Bucha.
So, food is about to get more expensive for everyone since this will effect markets on a global scale.
Dunno why you're getting downvoted; messing with Ukranian grain has knock-on effects that'll touch most of the world.
Probably bots from lemmygrad
You're probably right.
What will be interesting to watch is how it affects food prices in countries that didn't import grain from Ukraine in the first place (like the US). I'm guessing there will still be a significant effect.
Wheat prices were up 77ยข according to a friend looking at fields that haven't been contracted yet. That's just this morning. Don't know if they continued to rise or if they plateaued, but that's what the response was in the Midwest.
77ct without a reference of how much it was before isn't saying much
$7.5010 per bushel on July 21st
The US is literally a world away with huge resources of their own.
It's North Africa and Arabia that are going to bear the brunt of it, and Europe too to a lesser extent (they at least have more access to the Atlantic).
Just like the last time there was a forced blockade of grain exports from Ukraine, worldwide wheat supplies were re-routed to underserved markets, making everyones' bread and wheat products worldwide spike in price.
With the insane rate of increases in food prices lately, not just caused by this war, but also through cascading climate events, it was already very likely that there will be famine in at least some parts of the world. This only further exacerbates what is already a fragile situation globally. We may very well see significant global unrest and possible regime changes across the globe.
There already is famine in many parts of the world. Currently over 10% of all humans live in hunger.
From what I can find, the only current famines are in Madagascar and Ethiopia. Hunger is different from famine. Hunger caused by greed, not lack of food, does not qualify.
Can NATO just say enough is enough? Attacking food storage will have as large of an effect as the use of a nuclear weapon. The loss in food supply, in theory, would be directly responsible for tens of thousands of starvation related deaths.
If all the previous war crimes weren't enough, one more isn't going to change anybody's mind. :(
and upset Putin? they're too afraid to.
NATO can say whatever they want, but they won't do anything.
NATO is a defensive pact, you fuck with one of us, you fuck with all of us. Ukraine isn't a member but I support it's application to join.
But the point her is that fucking with the food from Ukraine fucks with the rest.
It's not a direct attack on NATO though. If Russia launched a missile at the UK then it would be on like donkey kong.
NATO has stated that if nuclear weapons were used outside of NATO territory, they could income article 5 if nuclear fallout enters a territory.
Not a direct attack in that scenario, just consequences from an attack on a non-nato country, which starvation from a lack of food is also technically a consequence from an attack on a non-nato country.
So if I send a Nuke to Ukraine and affects all the border nations we act like oh look they didn't attack us.... Or poison a river that goes to other countries etc...
Or whatever... So any attack that affect the redt but it's not direct is nothing.... This is stupid
1 nuke is launched, there's a VERY good chance every single nuke on Earth is launched. Literally everyone dies in that scenario. I agree, attacking the grainaries is evil, but it's several orders of magnitude less severe than a nuclear bomb. For instance, the 2 nukes dropped on Japan killed almost a quarter million people. Modern nuclear bombs are tens of times more powerful than Fat Man and Little Boy.
NATO is basically trying to get Ukraine killed at this point.
Russian atrocities never end. Don't ever forget Bucha.
So, food is about to get more expensive for everyone since this will effect markets on a global scale.
Dunno why you're getting downvoted; messing with Ukranian grain has knock-on effects that'll touch most of the world.
Probably bots from lemmygrad
You're probably right.
What will be interesting to watch is how it affects food prices in countries that didn't import grain from Ukraine in the first place (like the US). I'm guessing there will still be a significant effect.
Wheat prices were up 77ยข according to a friend looking at fields that haven't been contracted yet. That's just this morning. Don't know if they continued to rise or if they plateaued, but that's what the response was in the Midwest.
77ct without a reference of how much it was before isn't saying much
$7.5010 per bushel on July 21st
The US is literally a world away with huge resources of their own.
It's North Africa and Arabia that are going to bear the brunt of it, and Europe too to a lesser extent (they at least have more access to the Atlantic).
Just like the last time there was a forced blockade of grain exports from Ukraine, worldwide wheat supplies were re-routed to underserved markets, making everyones' bread and wheat products worldwide spike in price.
With the insane rate of increases in food prices lately, not just caused by this war, but also through cascading climate events, it was already very likely that there will be famine in at least some parts of the world. This only further exacerbates what is already a fragile situation globally. We may very well see significant global unrest and possible regime changes across the globe.
There already is famine in many parts of the world. Currently over 10% of all humans live in hunger.
From what I can find, the only current famines are in Madagascar and Ethiopia. Hunger is different from famine. Hunger caused by greed, not lack of food, does not qualify.