Google, Cloudflare & Cisco Will Poison DNS to Stop Piracy Block Circumvention * TorrentFreak

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Run your own unbound or bind resolvers!

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A French court has ordered Google, Cloudflare, and Cisco to poison their DNS resolvers...

Never question the bravery of the French. They discovered snails are edible.

As for their intelligence on the other hand...

Since OpenNIC resolvers are user-run, doesn't that mean a bad actor could theoretically pop up at any time and log any request that goes through them?

Opennic should be the default DNS of everybody!

ELI5 please. What are the benefits over unbound?

I don't know about unbound so I can't really compare... OpenNic is not run by for-profit corporations, which I think is a good thing.

unbound is a software that you can run anywhere to have a caching dns. opennic is a project of dns servers you can connect to to resolve dns records (think in google dns servers but run by the community). two different problem spaces. you can even use both at the same time

Apparently Cisco operates a popular DNS resolver? Never heard of that before.

And definitely don't learn how to use a VPN. Or set up Unbound or Bind or PowerDNS Recursive...

Cisco bought OpenDNS a few years ago,

Ah crap, good to know. This sucks though, I was thinking of using it to replace CF. What's left? Quad9 and the unbound type?

ATM I'm using Quad9 and OpenNIC but I'm not sure how much of everything do they cover. I'm also not well aware of any other good "flat DNS" alternative (aka: one you can put right into your /etc/resolv.conf / Windows LAN config, without need of extra internal service).

Cisco operates from the ISP side, they'll poison DNS through their routers. And you should be aware that your ISP will employ Deep Packet Inspection which can also be done with Cisco routers. That means they can intercept internet traffic, especially if your internet connection is not encrypted.

ISPs were already required to block the sites. I don't think an additional block on the Cisco side would change anything in that case.

ELI5…?

DNS is when your browser asks where to find a website. You enter Lemmy.One in your browser, and your browser asks the DNS resolver the address of the computer the website is hosted on.

Most people will use their internet company's DNS, and it sounds like France ordered these companies to block some illegal streaming sites by having the DNS server point to a page saying it's blocked instead of to the website server.

More technical users changed their settings to get DNS from google, Cloudflare, etc instead of the internet company, so now France is going to make those companies block the sites too.

ELI5: France is lying to your computer when it asks where to find the websites

Is it possible to get unbound to talk to the root servers via TLS/HTTPS by now?

I'm currently using Quad9 because they support DNS over TLS and DNS over HTTPS.

Yes its possible 👍

Use:

forward-zone:
  forward-addr: 9.9.9.9@853#dns.quad9.net

That is what I'm doing currently but now unbound doesn't talk to the root servers anymore, it sends all queries to Quad9.

Both scenarios are not ideal because you always end up with one entity knowing all your queries.

Perhaps you could configure more than unbound service behind a loadbalancer. Each unbound instance is configured to use different upstream dns servers.

Double check if unbound doesn't allow you to randomly hop between dns upstreams first, but the above solution should work if that's unavailable atm.

I just want to point out the Technitium project as an alternative to unbound and bind resolver as well.

Regardless, it's really easy to setup your own DNS resolver that resolves to DNS roots.

I'm glad it's only the football streaming sites, but I don't much like that companies get this kind of legal power.