Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months. Vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.
Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there any more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world test PHP can very often be faster then - less-than-mature-Rust codebase.
I was curious about Kbin until I read this comment.
Probably but anything > node.
Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn't the perfect name but it's more memorable than kbin.
kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE
That's what I needed to hear today. genius
Speaking about names. What the hell is a "magazine"?? It's like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.
Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.
Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.
Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.
I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there's more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.
I've tried both. Here are some thoughts.
I like the more sorting options by different time points like last 6 or 12 hours on Kbin.
Seems easier to find Lemmy subs on Kbin that it is to find Kbin subs on Lemmy.
I don't like that I can't see what Kbin defederates from like I can on Lemmy.
I'm wary of large instances on the fediverse because of stability and being a potential target for defederation due to size (such as mastodon social).
I found a specific Lemmy instance that I wanted to join. For what I use it for the format suits me better but if not for this instance I probably would've been on kbin just cuz it seems easier to interact with mastodon through it
What a difference, we can talk to each other :F
Idk i just heard of lemmy first
I'm in both, but I'm a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience.
99% of my Reddit's time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.
I wouldn't mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.
It was the first one I knew about and I haven't had a reason to switch over. I already knew about lemmy long before all of the reddit drama happened, so that was where I went a few days before the blackout. I had never even heard of kbin until after I'd already been on lemmy for a while. Also, rust > php, and calling communities "magazines" is weird.
I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.
It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.
on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.
also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.
The syntax is slightly different in Kbin: @community
Also, you need to do it from the all magazines search bar.
That made it work.
Php
Everyone in kbin is handsome and / or gorgeous! Everyone in Lemmy is a Lemmy user 😛 /s
In all seriousness, kbin is developed by Ernest who is an extremely devoted and trustworthy dev. Lemmy is developed by CCP shills. That's the reason I chose kbin.
kbin is also getting steadily updated and I have a very good feeling about its stability and featureset in a few months taking a look at the GitHub.
What’s a kbin?
Think of it like Lemmy but with a different UI plus the ability to "tweet" on mastodon. I'm commenting from kbin right now, we can all see the same posts because it's federated.
I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.
Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can't even use it because it's flying downwards?
I first was on Lemmy, now on kbin. Kbin is just a much more nicer experience. Also it's not developed by tankies who glorify f*cking Mao Zedong. Simple as that.
The Lemmy devs claim the tankie thing was a claim by one Mastodon user with no proof. I keep people say they are, but haven't seen anything yet to back it up. Including several comments where people have asked for proof. Is there any?
You were on lemmygrad?
I just looked a bit through the mastodon accounts of core developers.
The tankie thing keeps pushing me away from lemmy, but lemmy seems to be the only software getting clients at the moment. So I'm torn. I want an iOS client badly, but I don't want to support tankies.
I suppose I shouldn't sell out for a nice app though.
Not like they get money from that, they do get money from donations, but I don‘t think just using an open source product is support.
I use like hundreds of open source things and idk the ideology of any of the devs and I don‘t care, they could turn out to be serial killers, I don‘t see my use of their product as an issue. Monetary support is the difference to me.
Maybe I got some messed up morals though, wouldn’t be the first time.
Social networks, even open source ones are only successful if lots of people use them. The more people who join and contribute to the community, the more other people will find things that interest them and then join. Any engagement with the network increases it’s reach and therefore influence. If that network is run by tankies I’d rather not add to its power.
Not all Lemmy instances are run by the Lemmy devs, just lemmygrad and lemmy.ml afaik and since the code for lemmy is open and can be forked, I doubt they are influencing much beyond their own instances.
Lemmy is not ran by tankies, even if it may be developed by one - if the lead devs go off the rails, someone can always fork it and continue development elsewhere; and if any instance goes off the rails it can be defederated (and this is already happening!)
Honestly the kbin site works quite well on mobile and you can install it as a PWA
I agree it works well, but it annoys me that there seems to be no way to collapse comment threads, and on iOS, once you press a menu, it's impossible to hide it again.
Kbin just sounds cooler, dude.
I mean, lemmy - that's just lame with extra steps. Eww. Yuck. Yucky. Not cool. Actual cringe, tbh. 🤢
Kbin. That's like cool-beans, dude. Actually rad. And based. 😎
Who doesn't want to be cool? I tell you, nerds, that's who. Do you want to be a nerd? Didn't think so.
Checkmate. Try proving me wrong (pro-tip: you can't)
Lemmy is one of the coolest musicians to ever live. There, I won the argument.
Rust > PHP
Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months. Vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.
Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there any more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world test PHP can very often be faster then - less-than-mature-Rust codebase.
I was curious about Kbin until I read this comment.
Probably but anything > node.
Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn't the perfect name but it's more memorable than kbin.
That's what I needed to hear today. genius
Speaking about names. What the hell is a "magazine"?? It's like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.
Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.
Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.
Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.
I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there's more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.
I've tried both. Here are some thoughts.
I like the more sorting options by different time points like last 6 or 12 hours on Kbin.
Seems easier to find Lemmy subs on Kbin that it is to find Kbin subs on Lemmy.
I don't like that I can't see what Kbin defederates from like I can on Lemmy.
I'm wary of large instances on the fediverse because of stability and being a potential target for defederation due to size (such as mastodon social).
I found a specific Lemmy instance that I wanted to join. For what I use it for the format suits me better but if not for this instance I probably would've been on kbin just cuz it seems easier to interact with mastodon through it
What a difference, we can talk to each other :F
Idk i just heard of lemmy first
I'm in both, but I'm a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience. 99% of my Reddit's time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.
I wouldn't mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.
It was the first one I knew about and I haven't had a reason to switch over. I already knew about lemmy long before all of the reddit drama happened, so that was where I went a few days before the blackout. I had never even heard of kbin until after I'd already been on lemmy for a while. Also, rust > php, and calling communities "magazines" is weird.
I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.
It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.
on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.
also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.
The syntax is slightly different in Kbin: @community
Also, you need to do it from the all magazines search bar.
That made it work.
Php
Everyone in kbin is handsome and / or gorgeous! Everyone in Lemmy is a Lemmy user 😛 /s
In all seriousness, kbin is developed by Ernest who is an extremely devoted and trustworthy dev. Lemmy is developed by CCP shills. That's the reason I chose kbin.
kbin is also getting steadily updated and I have a very good feeling about its stability and featureset in a few months taking a look at the GitHub.
What’s a kbin?
Think of it like Lemmy but with a different UI plus the ability to "tweet" on mastodon. I'm commenting from kbin right now, we can all see the same posts because it's federated.
I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.
Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can't even use it because it's flying downwards?
I first was on Lemmy, now on kbin. Kbin is just a much more nicer experience. Also it's not developed by tankies who glorify f*cking Mao Zedong. Simple as that.
The Lemmy devs claim the tankie thing was a claim by one Mastodon user with no proof. I keep people say they are, but haven't seen anything yet to back it up. Including several comments where people have asked for proof. Is there any?
You were on lemmygrad?
I just looked a bit through the mastodon accounts of core developers.
More info: https://kbin.social/m/lemmyworld@lemmy.world/t/47012/-/comment/196579
The tankie thing keeps pushing me away from lemmy, but lemmy seems to be the only software getting clients at the moment. So I'm torn. I want an iOS client badly, but I don't want to support tankies.
I suppose I shouldn't sell out for a nice app though.
Not like they get money from that, they do get money from donations, but I don‘t think just using an open source product is support.
I use like hundreds of open source things and idk the ideology of any of the devs and I don‘t care, they could turn out to be serial killers, I don‘t see my use of their product as an issue. Monetary support is the difference to me.
Maybe I got some messed up morals though, wouldn’t be the first time.
Social networks, even open source ones are only successful if lots of people use them. The more people who join and contribute to the community, the more other people will find things that interest them and then join. Any engagement with the network increases it’s reach and therefore influence. If that network is run by tankies I’d rather not add to its power.
Not all Lemmy instances are run by the Lemmy devs, just lemmygrad and lemmy.ml afaik and since the code for lemmy is open and can be forked, I doubt they are influencing much beyond their own instances.
Lemmy is not ran by tankies, even if it may be developed by one - if the lead devs go off the rails, someone can always fork it and continue development elsewhere; and if any instance goes off the rails it can be defederated (and this is already happening!)
Honestly the kbin site works quite well on mobile and you can install it as a PWA
I agree it works well, but it annoys me that there seems to be no way to collapse comment threads, and on iOS, once you press a menu, it's impossible to hide it again.
Lemmy, on the other hand, is a shitshow on iOS.
Check out https://kbin.social/m/kbinStyles for userscripts to help with stuff like collapsing comments
Kbin just sounds cooler, dude.
I mean, lemmy - that's just lame with extra steps. Eww. Yuck. Yucky. Not cool. Actual cringe, tbh. 🤢
Kbin. That's like cool-beans, dude. Actually rad. And based. 😎
Who doesn't want to be cool? I tell you, nerds, that's who. Do you want to be a nerd? Didn't think so.
Checkmate. Try proving me wrong (pro-tip: you can't)
Lemmy is one of the coolest musicians to ever live. There, I won the argument.
iirc Lemmy is God, so yeah