Mother, daughter killed by Israel army in Gaza church grounds: patriarchate

Silverseren@kbin.social to World News@lemmy.world – 287 points –
france24.com

A Christian mother and daughter were shot dead by an Israeli soldier on the grounds of a Catholic church in Gaza City on Saturday, the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem said.

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One was killed as she tried to carry the other to safety," it added.

Ah yes the IDF using their learned war crime tactics against civilian women in a church.

And yet you won't hear a peep about this from the 'Christians' in the West.

I know Hamas is a thing and I don't support it, but it really saddens me to see Israelis do things that were done to them just 80 years ago. There's enough space for all of us on this planet.

See that's the thing, Israelis by and large aren't the Jews that survived the Holocaust, most of those folks stayed in Europe or immigrated to the US and Canada.

Ashkenazi Jews in Israel who trace back to an arrival from that period are mostly the folks that handed the Nazis a fat stack to transfer their monetary assets to the banking infrastructure already established by the Zionists in Israel.

Of the Holocaust Survivor families that ended up in Israel, a third live in abject poverty, because again, these were the folks that couldn't just pay off the Nazis to let them go somewhere else, all of them face language discrimination because Israel banned the official use of historical Jewish languages like Ladino, Yiddish, and Mizrahi, and all of them risk getting slurred at by the non-holocaust-survivor families, specifically calling them Soap which is just one of the most blatantly heinous things I've discovered about how one community gets treated by another.

There's also the Russian Jews who ignore comparisons to the Holocaust and identify more with it being a rightful act of irredentism akin to the war in Ukraine.

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Ladies and gentlemen meet “the most moral army in the world”…

But Biden said they have the right to defend themselves.

The Roman empire famously never fought an offensive war. They were always defensive wars. Sometimes preemptive defensive wars.

Preemptive defense, looks a heck of a lot like an offense, to the victims

To be honest, the Roman empire's favorite target was... the Roman empire. They fought more internal than external wars, especially from the 3rd century onwards.

It would depend a lot, Carthage for example absolutely was going to shoot first if Rome didn't, the Hellenistic world as well most likely, especially after Hannibal fled there after the second Punic War.

In early October 2023, following the arrest of 5 ultra-Orthodox Heredi Jews for spitting at Christians and outside churches, [he] said it was "not a criminal case" following arrests. Prior to entering politics, he defended Jews spitting at Christians as "an ancient Jewish custom."

― Ben-Gvir. Israeli far-right politician and Minister of National Security since 2022.

Isn't Ben-Gvir the person who purposefully vandalized the former PM Rabin's car and who was suspected of having connections to those involved in assassinating Rabin?

I've linked to his wikipedia article above. Here's a relevant quote:

In 1995, Ben-Gvir came to public attention for the first time, when he appeared on television brandishing a Cadillac hood ornament that had been stolen from Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's car, and declared: "We got to his car, and we'll get to him too." Several weeks later, Rabin was assassinated by right-wing extremist Yigal Amir.

But that's arguably not even the worst bit in the article.

You'd think if they were gonna break out ancient traditions of discrimination against Christians that they'd get creative and do something making Lion noises at them.

Israel's campaign to crush the militant group has so far killed at least 18,800, mostly women and children, according to the territory's Hamas government.

Calling it "Israel's campaign to crush the militant group" is arguably too charitable at this point.

Nothing "arguably" about it. It is a deliberate campaign of genocide against a people, NOT a military campaign focused on Hamas.

Here are the women in question, by the way. They shot the older mother ("grandmother") first and her daughter, the middle-aged woman, tried to drag her to the church before the IDF shot and killed her as well.

Zionists are the new Nazis.

Everyone who is a Zionist or who supports Zionism should be treated as those who are Nazis or support Nazism.

If you mean the political party, that would be Likud aka plural Likudniks. Translates to "consolidation" in Hebrew, as in, the coalition of right wing interests in Israeli government. There are more moderate factions but they lost. The best way to stop the genocide is to dismantle the party. It took world war 2 to stop the third reich's momentum. We could also try to convince Dr. Frankenstein to bring his monster to heel, even if only for their own stupid sake

Yea fuck these Nazis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapoel\_Hatzair

I don’t like thinking hard so I just generalize an entire group of people and call them Nazis. Anyone who supports Palestine are Hamas agents. Do you not see how dumb that sounds? If you cared to read both Palestinian and Israeli history you would know both sides are filled with good and bad people. Calling all Zionists Nazis is such a giant fuck you to the thousands of Jews who immigrated to Israel and were very vocal about pacifism and coexistence. Tribalism is wrong, knock it off.

The current government of Israel is committing genocide against Palestinian people. I don't know that "Zionist" is the right word to describe a person that supports the Israeli government's actions, but they are absolutely comparable to the Nazis in the same way that Hamas and its supporters are unambiguously terrorists.

For your information: https://youtu.be/pJ9PKQbkJv8?si=qzfZ4eJ8vPFqFeH8

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