Edit: Ignore this comment, the image was loaded late. I thought it was a genuine question.
Thanks for linking this, I had totally missed the problems with manjaro.
I hate how weird the focus on arch installation is. I got attacked on reddit for calling endeavour arch. Like, I used that shitty method of installation in 1997, it's tedious and there are better ways now.
Yeah people definitely go overboard with that. I think the only real problem is that Arch-based distros might be using other repositories and not be completely sync'd with Arch itself so then users will go to Arch support forums or communities with problems that don't affect vanilla arch. But I've never really cared when people using derivatives claim they're on an Arch system.
Installing isn't even as big of an undertaking these days too, so it's less of an achievement then people would like to think. Last time I did a clean install on my laptop I just ran the 'arch-install' script included on the vanilla ISO and it was super easy, lets you choose where you want it installed, pick from a list of desktop environments, and you pick between alternatives for other common packages then you're good to go without having to do much manual work during the install itself.
Do we really need to bring that bullshit over from Reddit? Manjaro is fine, Arch is fine, distroshaming is for children.
beeb boop
OP - use Post Image to host and only post the links to Lemmy, especially on .ml where the server is (IIRC) someone's self hosted system. Uploading to Post Image is just like old skool imgur before it became trackerware junk. Once uploaded, open the image itself in a new tab in the browser to be sure you have the full size raw image URL. Then paste this into the post. You can even do this after posting something like this post in an edit too. If you want to post a linked image into the body of a post or in a comment, the syntax is:
Leave the "image" text in the brackets alone.
This extra step for external image hosting will reduce the load on all instances, and the image will load much faster for users, avoiding most confusion about this being a meme when you posted it in Linux instead of Linux-memes.
for me, Debian -> Ubuntu -> Arch -> Artix -> Void -> Gentoo. I'll reach my final form when I finally run LFS.
Debian for prod, Manjaro for gaming.
One of if not the worst Linux distros opinio i've ever seen.
Btw I use EndeavourOS xD
Gigachad meme: Btw I use Nix
i was hopeful for manjaro. bad management for sure
Meh. I've been using Manjaro for two years now. So far so good. System has been working perfectly.
Congrats? But that doesn't change the fact it's shit.
Manjaro is without a doubt the worst arch derivative by far. Their whole marketing pitch is: "You heard that the arch repo has the most packages, and that they're all fresh from the pipeline? Use manjaro, and replace it with a smaller one that delays updates by two weeks for absolutely no reason! You want to use arch because of AUR? Oh, the package failed to install because your system is weeks out of date? Tough shit, we're not supporting AUR..."
It had a value in the time before archinstall, Endeavour, Arco, and Garuda. Each of them either only install arch with sane defaults, or provide some other benefits. Manjaro does neither, unless you count delaying security patches a benefit.
I tried all the other arch distros and there was something critical broken off the bat with each one. Manjaro was working perfect out of the box and the only issue so far was my fault. All the complains about it seem very nitpicky.
I use Mint, Arch (technically Asahi), Debian, Ubuntu, and I used to use Manjaro.
They all have their places. Mint has the best UI/stable no-fuss desktop experience, for instance.
Arch does not have a place though. It's just a more buggy Arch with a worse maintaining team
EDIT: Actually, tbh it's incorrect to even call Manjaro Arch. That's an insult to Arch
Arch ... [is] just a more buggy Arch
I know you meant to say Manjaro, but that's a pretty funny take.
Oops lol
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Don't forget that it's repo has less packages and that they're delayed by two weeks for absolutely no reason. Not only opening users to potential hacks, but also messing up AUR package installation.
Manjaro Linux is Arch Linux based. Manjaro and Arch relation is like Ubuntu and Debian relation.
Manjaro has its own set of issues that you may want to stay away from.
Edit: Ignore this comment, the image was loaded late. I thought it was a genuine question.
Thanks for linking this, I had totally missed the problems with manjaro.
I hate how weird the focus on arch installation is. I got attacked on reddit for calling endeavour arch. Like, I used that shitty method of installation in 1997, it's tedious and there are better ways now.
Yeah people definitely go overboard with that. I think the only real problem is that Arch-based distros might be using other repositories and not be completely sync'd with Arch itself so then users will go to Arch support forums or communities with problems that don't affect vanilla arch. But I've never really cared when people using derivatives claim they're on an Arch system.
Installing isn't even as big of an undertaking these days too, so it's less of an achievement then people would like to think. Last time I did a clean install on my laptop I just ran the 'arch-install' script included on the vanilla ISO and it was super easy, lets you choose where you want it installed, pick from a list of desktop environments, and you pick between alternatives for other common packages then you're good to go without having to do much manual work during the install itself.
Do we really need to bring that bullshit over from Reddit? Manjaro is fine, Arch is fine, distroshaming is for children.
beeb boop
OP - use Post Image to host and only post the links to Lemmy, especially on .ml where the server is (IIRC) someone's self hosted system. Uploading to Post Image is just like old skool imgur before it became trackerware junk. Once uploaded, open the image itself in a new tab in the browser to be sure you have the full size raw image URL. Then paste this into the post. You can even do this after posting something like this post in an edit too. If you want to post a linked image into the body of a post or in a comment, the syntax is:
Leave the "image" text in the brackets alone.
This extra step for external image hosting will reduce the load on all instances, and the image will load much faster for users, avoiding most confusion about this being a meme when you posted it in Linux instead of Linux-memes.
https://postimages.org
for me, Debian -> Ubuntu -> Arch -> Artix -> Void -> Gentoo. I'll reach my final form when I finally run LFS.
Debian for prod, Manjaro for gaming.
One of if not the worst Linux distros opinio i've ever seen.
Btw I use EndeavourOS xD
Gigachad meme: Btw I use Nix
i was hopeful for manjaro. bad management for sure
Meh. I've been using Manjaro for two years now. So far so good. System has been working perfectly.
Congrats? But that doesn't change the fact it's shit.
Manjaro is without a doubt the worst arch derivative by far. Their whole marketing pitch is: "You heard that the arch repo has the most packages, and that they're all fresh from the pipeline? Use manjaro, and replace it with a smaller one that delays updates by two weeks for absolutely no reason! You want to use arch because of AUR? Oh, the package failed to install because your system is weeks out of date? Tough shit, we're not supporting AUR..."
It had a value in the time before archinstall, Endeavour, Arco, and Garuda. Each of them either only install arch with sane defaults, or provide some other benefits. Manjaro does neither, unless you count delaying security patches a benefit.
I tried all the other arch distros and there was something critical broken off the bat with each one. Manjaro was working perfect out of the box and the only issue so far was my fault. All the complains about it seem very nitpicky.
I use Mint, Arch (technically Asahi), Debian, Ubuntu, and I used to use Manjaro.
They all have their places. Mint has the best UI/stable no-fuss desktop experience, for instance.
Arch does not have a place though. It's just a more buggy Arch with a worse maintaining team
EDIT: Actually, tbh it's incorrect to even call Manjaro Arch. That's an insult to Arch
I know you meant to say Manjaro, but that's a pretty funny take.
Oops lol
Leaving in
Don't forget that it's repo has less packages and that they're delayed by two weeks for absolutely no reason. Not only opening users to potential hacks, but also messing up AUR package installation.
Manjaro is Arch's glue eating cousin
btw I use garuda, because I'm a real gaymer