Youtube send a Letter to Grayjay Creator

dvdnet62@feddit.nl to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com – 122 points –
Youtube's Legal Team sent me a letter! 😃
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grayjay is not foss for anyone wondering

What makes it not Foss? The source code is available and you can build it yourself if you want to

That doesn't make if foss though. That doesn't make it either Free or Open Source.

Care to explain? Because that's literally the definition of open source

Nope. Its not the definition of open source. Its the defenition of "source availiable"

Real open source defenition : https://opensource.org/osd

Real Free Software defenition : https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html

Have a good read. If you want tl;dr, here is it

Open source is a developement methodology in which software is licensed with the permission for everyone to vollavorate and develop it. Anyone has the freedom to modify and contribute to it.

Free software is a matter of freedom. It refers to the 4 essential freedoms a software should have, that is freedom to use, modify, share copies and share modified copies for the community however you want without restriction.

FOSS is software that fits both theese defenitions. While practically almost all free software are open source and almost all open source software are free software, but there are few exeptions

I love Louis but does anyone have TL;DW?

YouTube legal wants Futo to release apis and user data to them as they believe Grayjay is violating their terms.

Grayjay doesn't store user data nor is it using their APIs so the terms don't apply

Futo will not be removing Grayjay and won't be complying with a request that cannot be fulfilled.

Other details:

  • YouTube Premium's download feature still requires an Internet connection to access content downloaded.

  • Louis makes the point of being tired of paying for products and services that end up giving you less and less, which is part of the reason why Grayjay was created

  • Content creators shouldn't fear of being banned by an temperamental AI that could cripple their livelihood without an explanation which Grayjay attempts to solve as viewers can still access their content on Rumble, Twitch and other platforms if they get banned on Youtube.

Good on Louis for sticking to his guns.

Thanks. I'll also subscribe to CatFacts™ if you provide them. 😜

TL;DW: Doesn't pet the goddamn cat. I couldn't tell what else he might have been saying.

The day Louis pets the cat will be a legendary one

Then you'll love this video. He pets Blackberry throughout the video and has a segment at the end talking about sponsorblock blocking segments with Mr Clinton in them.

This is madness. Who would do such a thing?!

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

this video

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

YouTube sent him a cease and desist for an app he is creating/distributing claiming that the app is using YouTubes API in an app but apparently the app doesn't use the API. So he basically replied "No, we aren't using that data, check our open-source code" and that he has no plans on stopping

I was just looking for a YouTube frontend alternative to install on a LineageOS device and this post pops up on my feed. Straisand effect at its finest.

Why doesn't he upload these to peertube or host his own peertube?

Anti Commercial-AI license

The entire point of grayjay is that its not only a YouTube client, its also a peertube and nebula client, so its easier to use the smaller services

Precisely what I'm alluding to. If he dislikes youtube so much, why isn't he uploading his stuff to mirrors? Grayjay should/would be able to pick that up and allow watching his content from peertube instead of peertube.

Anti Commercial-AI license

He has paid storage on vimeo. But I think he stopped when they started requiring age verification for unrated videos.

So… when I want to control content I’m consuming, I get the .mp3 or .pdf or whatever it is I’m interested in.

How is grayjay a more reliable manner of being in control of my content on cross country drives ir wherever? I’m not tracking here. Why would anyone choose grayjay over simply controlling their own drives?

Because Grayjay allows users to follow others across multiple platforms such as Rumble, Odyssey and Twitch. So if they get banned off YouTube, they will still be able to access content on other platforms.

And with Grayjay, you can download these videos and access them without needing to connect to the internet which is required for YouTube Premium despite the content being downloaded on the YouTube app.

I'm not quite following what is your confusion when he outlined the problem Grayjay is trying to solve.

I collect actual media files — it’s easy and perfectly reliable. We’ve been doing it since 1997. Why do anything else?

What do you mean by "anything else"?

Apps like Grayjay and Newpipe allow you to "collect" those media files.

I don’t really know anything about grey Jay. I just know how to create my own archives of files and use them as I please. I’m not sure why I would need any kind of app to access my files — except for the player.

How do you power your drives on a cross country drive? How do they handle the bumps and the vibrations?

Also, it's rougly the same as why it's easier to pay for streaming services instead of downloading your media or obtaining a physical copy, and managing that.
Don't get me wrong, I don't use neither spofity, netflix, or anything like that, but downloading the media and transferring it to your mobile device is often not that easy, and always takes time, especially the first few times while you're getting used to it. And then also don't forget that a lot don't even have real computers, just a phone, and good luck to connect a hard drive to that

I’ve got a collection of classic iPods — the ones with the clickwheel.

Yes — the files can take time to download and organize and curate but in the end — if I need a thousand hours of audio I can rely on… well, it’s easy and fail proof.

The futo applications are nice, it's a shame about their licence, I hope they solve it soon so people can start shipping them.