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Lamo this will introduce more people to revanced

You know why it's called revanced? Because youtube came after vanced. They wont ignore it forever, unfortunately.

YouTube Vanced was shut down because they tried to monetise it by releasing their own crypto NFTs, sparking Google to shut it down. I think for now Revanced is safe.

Every great project always seems to have that one dude who is like, "But what if crypto?". Really hoping we are moving past that phase.

Its a monetization approach, same motives as what youtube does here with the ads so doubt itll ever go away.

The thing is that Revanced follows a new distribution model. Rather than distributing a modified app, they instead distribute patches for the normal YouTube APK so that the user modifies the app on their own device. Thus, ReVanced never distributes any of Google's IP. It's kinda like game modding. ReVanced will be a lot harder for Google to kill.

The one downside for ReVanced is that it's harder for ordinary users to install, so that will limit its popularity.

Rerevanced will be popular

Oof, one day soon, we'll all be watching torrented rips of youtube videos, like we already do TV shows.

I just use yt-dl to download anything from youtube. It cuts the commercial out during download

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I know if I'm not wrong vanced got in trouble for using YouTube logo and reverse engineering the YouTube app. Revanced technically not breaking any law as it not directly modifying YouTube like vanced.

Yeah, but YT can change the terms, and now blocking ads, its clear they are stepping up the aggression in chasing profitability.

they've captured as many paying customersproducts as they could under the 'old' system, so now they're trying to squeeze more cash out every other source they can.

I don't fully agree. I buy premium. As long as they keep it ad-free, it's a vote for a better business model, for platform, creator, and user alike. YT has had that option for years. Up to now, it was essentially voluntary.

It's time to leave the ad-funded internet entirely behind us, and move to platforms like Nebula, Floatplane, Proton Mail... And yes, even YT Premium. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed they don't pull a hulu and try to double dip on both a sub and ads.

If that happens, YT is dead to me.

I just can’t agree with the $73/month price for something I rarely if ever use. My grandson loves watching Elmo’s world on it on the tv, ads aren’t too bad yet, get like 10 mins of video before 2 30 second ads. But I refuse to pay google any money, they make enough off the android phones and all their ads they shove down your throat via websites, YouTube and google search engine

I mean even if you pay for premium, they don't give you the option to not have shorts shoved down your throat. This is a "feature" that has been added after premium was a thing. It's also not too hard to figure out shorts are an optimized method to harvest more user data on interests.

While I don't disagree with leaving the ad-funded internet behind us, I also don't trust Google to be a pioneer in reducing ads on the Internet— considering they're an ad delivering company above all else at this point.

No one said we should trust a corporation to do anything, much less google. I've ditched chrome and encourage others to do the same every chance I get. But I also think Premium, YT Music, Android and Pixel, Google drive/office suite, are all reasons for google to rely less and less on their ad business.

The challenge they now face, is the unwillingness of customers to pay. Due to google having relied on ads for so long, people are more than used to accessing their services free of charge. Just looking at the ad-block-blocking situation, they demand that they be able to do so. All the while rejecting even the ads.

Ads will never be the long term play. Sooner or later legislation will step in, as people who actually use the internet and it's services like youtube, start getting into government.

I don't have premium and I don't see shorts either. I'm not sure if some of my addons is blocking those or I just clicked "not interested" enough many times.

EDIT: Yeah. Enhancer for YouTube blocks them

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What are they gonna do? Revanced is just a patcher, unlike the previous version that fully distributes modified YouTube apk. There is a separate repo that has patched YouTube apk, but if that repo got taken down, the revanced manager still live on.

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Or, you could buy YouTube TV, which gives you YouTube Premium as a undisclosed bonus I’ve found. A great option because it helps content creators and allows you to cut cable. I may have some bias on the topic of paying for media content services, but in general pirating hurts the creators. I hate that I’m old and wise enough that I might have been more receptive to Metallica’s arguments during the Napster era. I do feel though that it is in the best interest of creators for certain content to be previewable. The problem with YouTube video monetization are that most are not going to be rewatched.

Wait what? I have YouTube TV and pay for YouTube Premium so would love to not do the latter. Where might I find this undisclosed bonus?

I simply find that when I am logged into YouTube with my same account that purchased YouTube TV I receive no ads. I am not using an add blocker or anything. I assumed that was because of my purchase of YouTube TV. It might be a bug with my account because I still get a splash occasionally to buy premium, however no ads ever.

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