The difference of stealing yourself vs being stolen from

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Say what you want about Steve Jobs, he's the guy who killed Steve Jobs

Oh that's so hilariously dark.

I think I've heard that as a Hitler joke. Say what you want about Hitler, at least he killed Hitler.

That’s more fitting. It’s a miss on Steve Jobs though. For one he didn’t kill himself, cancer did. And for another, just because he could be a prick doesn’t make him a bad person worth killing.

He had a very treatable cancer that was found in the early stages and was given an excellent prognosis, but in his infinite megalomaniac manner he decided he knew better than the doctors and opted to treat his cancer at home with homeopathic remedies. His home made new age "cures" clearly didn't work and by the time he finally decided to get proper treatment his cancer had metastasized and he was beyond help... sounds to me like he played a large hand in his own demise so the joke plays.

He thought his fruitarian diet would help him against pancreatic cancer. He tried to fight P.C. with apples.

Yeah I get what you’re saying. It’s still something entirely different to bomb yourself to death vs. to not do enough to stop a disease. And even with all the haters in here, I don’t think any reasonable person would want Steve Jobs dead, it’s not like he murdered people.

Billionaires murder people by existing

Sure, if you say so. On a different note, I recently watched Paradise on Netflix, where you can basically live forever if you’re rich enough. In the background someone says on tv at one point something like "the climate crisis has been solved by the top 5 richest people", which made me laugh quite a bit.

Tbf the top 5 richest people could do theoretically do a lot to solve the climate crisis, but it would mean ceasing to be the top 5 richest people, and I'm disillusioned of them ever doing so voluntarily

I found it funny because it’s probably true. And since they live forever in the movie they were motivated to fix the planet for themselves. Not sure if that came across, but that’s what I meant.

The key to fixing the climate crisis, is to make top billionaires immortal...

Somehow, it gives me pause and makes me think which one's worse.

He did nothing to stop the disease and actively rejected treatment and advice from medical professionals because he thought he knew better. So while this isn't the same as actively killing oneself, he is still more than likely responsible for his own death due to his own actions (or inaction).

Getting a treatable cancer and then choosing to do nothing about it other than eat fruit and refuse proper medical care is tantamount to killing yourself IMO.

Cancer did. And just because he could be a prick doesn’t mean he deserved to die so soon.

Iono, the kind of prick he was (narcissist who traumatized his own daughter and headed a company which needed suicide nets for the workers who made their product), paired with the fact that he signed his own death from his own deliberate delusions makes me conclude he did deserve to die, in more than one sense of the word 'deserve'.

Never said he deserved to die. Interesting what words you're choosing to put in my mouth.

He had a very treatable cancer and chose to eat oranges about it instead. He killed himself with his own hubris.