Earth ‘well outside safe operating space for humanity’, scientists find

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Earth ‘well outside safe operating space for humanity’, scientists find
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I'm going to be a dad in a few weeks. 🥲 (Feel free to dunk on me with the inevitable 'why?'s, and 'did you live under a rock?' I can't feel any worse anymore anyway 🤗)

I chose not to have kids. You can have my carbon offset.

Individual guilt for systemic problems plays well to the elites (ultra-wealthy). Unless you’re a billionaire. Then I want my offset back.

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Mine is 7 months old now. I felt the same. Just wait, you'll likely feel that it was the best thing you ever did. Your kid may be the one to drive some positive change. Just do the best you can and give yourself some grace.

Yes everyone should use this logic. Your kid might be the one, have 10 to increase your odds!

Realistically, 10 probably would spread your resources too thin, if you want each to excel enough to be part of the solution.

3-5 though, that's a good range.

Your sarcasm detector needs a tune up.

No I understood the sarcasm, and responded as the "straight foil"

It's the style of humor of Tommy Lee Jones's character in Men In Black.

Good luck to you and yours. I sincerely hope we’re wrong about how bad we think it’s going to get in the next 50 years.

Human problems have human solutions.

Renewables are already cheaper than fossil fuels, it just takes time for the economics to shake out.

Plenty of jobs in a clean economy as well.

...it just takes time...

Yeah, that's the thing the scientists are saying we're running out of though.

Change starts slowly but the effects compound

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The effects from about 250 years of industrialization sure did compound, huh?

So we'll compound more and be right on track in what, 300-350 years?

Industrial revolution was not global, renewables are

If industrialization wasn't global surely the effects of it weren't global either 🤡

Upgrade your reading comprehension 🤡

Where did the industrial revolution start?

It was not global from 1760 to 1820 ya jabroni

Renewables are being implemented in a far wider geographic than the Industrial Revolution was is my point

My point is the implications of the industrial revolution don't stop at national borders.

You don't need every country to emit pollution when they all share the same atmosphere.

And it's overwhelmingly likely that the rollout of renewables and environmentally responsible infrastructure won't happen everywhere at once. It begins in the countries with the ability and materials to produce such systems.

Do you have a map of existing renewable use per capital to see if my opinion is accurate or are you just going to be a massive prick?

It's not my fault if you don't understand. Go read a book.

Great talk, you've done wonders for the community.

Great talk, you've done wonders for the community.

You called me a massive prick dude. Don't dish it out if you can't take it back.

It's not that hard a concept. I even posted a picture. Do you really think technology is not being developed and implemented faster today than the 18th century?

I think the incentive is incredibly asymmetrical.

Everyone wants a tractor to help them plow the field, not everyone wants to do carbon capture.

I'll go read that book now lol

Dooming is like porn to these people man. They don't care about the realities at all, and only are interested in this article because it helps them feel bad.

Doomers just aren't worth it.

I just got a job in agtech that mitigates climate change specifically so I didn't have to live with existential dread

Life's too short to spend it worrying

I thought you said you are going to be dead in a few weeks. Then I reread it, and still pretty much think the same.

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