A war against Hamas that targets civilians is just going to create more Hamas.
You kill 100 civilians for every 4 Hamas fighters, all you end up with is 10 new Hamas fighters from the relatives of the civilian dead.
He's delusional.
Thats why I honestly believe that he just wants to genozide all Palestinians and grab the remaining land. Thats the only possible end to this conflict if Israel stays on this path. And it was on this path since 70 years, so why stop now?
The colonization of North America had a similiar pattern. Settle deeper and deeper in the territory of the other group and if they attack you, strike back ten times harder. Repeat until they have no suitable land left.
It's making me sick that we have to watch this shit in our times and that our politicians allow it or even support it.
Thats why I honestly believe that he just wants to genozide all Palestinians and grab the remaining land.
Anyone who doesn't think this is delusion. The Israeli government never wanted peace
Hamas never wanted peace, either. This is just a decades-old hot war arriving at its conclusion.
Former Palastinian leader, Yassar Arafat who was awarded a nobel peace prize died in 2004 confined to his compound by the IDF. Swiss investigators suggested polonium poisoning, French and Russian investigators didn’t really make a conclusion, but couldn’t really confirm or deny it.
A Hamas founder was killed in 2004:
“Yassin, a quadriplegic who was nearly blind, had been reliant on a wheelchair due to a sporting accident at the age of 12.[8] In 2004, he was killed when an Israeli helicopter gunship fired a missile at him as he was being wheeled from Fajr prayer in Gaza City.[9] The attack, which also killed both of his bodyguards and nine bystanders, was internationally condemned.”
Yassin on several occasions proposed long-term ceasefire agreements, or truces, so called Hudnas, in exchange for Israeli concessions. All such offers were rejected by Israel. Following his release from Israeli prison in 1997, he proposed a ten-year truce in exchange for total Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza and a stop to Israeli attacks on civilians. In 1999, in an interview with an Egyptian newspaper, he again offered a truce:
We have to be realistic. We are talking about a homeland that was stolen a long time ago in 1948 and again in 1967. My generation today is telling the Israelis, 'Let's solve this problem now, on the basis of the 1967 borders. Let's end this conflict by declaring a temporary ceasefire. Let's leave the bigger issue for future generations to decide.' The Palestinians will decide in the future about the nature of relations with Israel, but it must be a democratic decision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Yassin#Views_on_the_peace_process
Considering he was returning from mosque, and was executed, to international condemnation, it’s clear to see that he was replaced with much worse. Three of Hamas leadership have lost family also (wife/2 children, brother, eldest son).
In 2006, Hamas won a majority for the first time and took control of the Gaza strip and booted Fatah out.
From heading hopefully towards peace, to a divided Palestine with an increasingly hostile Hamas in the space of 2 years with the IDF possibly playing a significant part in that, it is hard to say that Israel aren’t more than a little responsible for radicalising Hamas further/agitating them. They also hold an awful lot of territory in the West Bank (which Hamas do not control).
It does not seem Israel want peace at all. I cannot imagine they are this incompetent. Not that I’m defending Hamas, they’re absolute assholes. Though. killing 7000 people including 40% children, it is the population of Gaza who are suffering. It is certainly going to help Hamas recruit with so many people losing parents, siblings and relatives. We head away from peace with every single day and it’s so painful to watch this.
well yes, that's why Netanyahu helped build Hamas, because they could weaken the position of the Palestinians who want peace.
Even without taking his mind into the palm of your hand, you can see that some things are not worth consuming. If this guy's brain was dinner for aliens it would be thrown in the trash to be recycled.
Where in NA is that happening?
If you read carefully, you will notice that the commenter used the past tense: "had" = simple past tense of the verb "to have".
I love it that I asked a question and noone really cares to answer but down vote me to hell and back. Also someone will snob me from the side telling me about the comment of the guy I asked a question to???????
You're being downvoted because it's a stupid question. It's not happening currently in NA; they're making a comparison to the historical colonization that happened there.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. That's at least what the Sesame Street told me as a child. People should be less entitled and maybe just share information?
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
I'm sorry, but this is one of those. There are questions that are stupid. There are questions that mislead. There are questions that strongly imply a falsehood. There are questions that insult the audience or the person it's directed to.
You did some of that by wholly misunderstanding a comment and thinking the commenter was daft. It's insulting and you're busy being concerned about your hurt feelings and down votes that don't even add to user karma.
Example: when did you stop beating your SO?
It's an obnoxious and insulting question.
Don't trot out a trite thing we tell children so they don't do stupid things. We're grown here, we know better - or we should.
This didn't age well did it
You need a hobby.
All the points still stand, and now you look even smaller.
That's what she said
I am answering you. The guy you asked a question to was talking about something that had happened in the past. You then asked a question as though you'd misread it and thought he was saying that it was still happening. He didn't say that, so your question is already answered.
Defeating Hamas?
A war against Hamas that targets civilians is just going to create more Hamas.
You kill 100 civilians for every 4 Hamas fighters, all you end up with is 10 new Hamas fighters from the relatives of the civilian dead.
He's delusional.
Thats why I honestly believe that he just wants to genozide all Palestinians and grab the remaining land. Thats the only possible end to this conflict if Israel stays on this path. And it was on this path since 70 years, so why stop now? The colonization of North America had a similiar pattern. Settle deeper and deeper in the territory of the other group and if they attack you, strike back ten times harder. Repeat until they have no suitable land left. It's making me sick that we have to watch this shit in our times and that our politicians allow it or even support it.
Anyone who doesn't think this is delusion. The Israeli government never wanted peace
Hamas never wanted peace, either. This is just a decades-old hot war arriving at its conclusion.
Former Palastinian leader, Yassar Arafat who was awarded a nobel peace prize died in 2004 confined to his compound by the IDF. Swiss investigators suggested polonium poisoning, French and Russian investigators didn’t really make a conclusion, but couldn’t really confirm or deny it.
A Hamas founder was killed in 2004:
“Yassin, a quadriplegic who was nearly blind, had been reliant on a wheelchair due to a sporting accident at the age of 12.[8] In 2004, he was killed when an Israeli helicopter gunship fired a missile at him as he was being wheeled from Fajr prayer in Gaza City.[9] The attack, which also killed both of his bodyguards and nine bystanders, was internationally condemned.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Yassin
Yassin on several occasions proposed long-term ceasefire agreements, or truces, so called Hudnas, in exchange for Israeli concessions. All such offers were rejected by Israel. Following his release from Israeli prison in 1997, he proposed a ten-year truce in exchange for total Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza and a stop to Israeli attacks on civilians. In 1999, in an interview with an Egyptian newspaper, he again offered a truce: We have to be realistic. We are talking about a homeland that was stolen a long time ago in 1948 and again in 1967. My generation today is telling the Israelis, 'Let's solve this problem now, on the basis of the 1967 borders. Let's end this conflict by declaring a temporary ceasefire. Let's leave the bigger issue for future generations to decide.' The Palestinians will decide in the future about the nature of relations with Israel, but it must be a democratic decision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Yassin#Views_on_the_peace_process
Considering he was returning from mosque, and was executed, to international condemnation, it’s clear to see that he was replaced with much worse. Three of Hamas leadership have lost family also (wife/2 children, brother, eldest son).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67103298
In 2006, Hamas won a majority for the first time and took control of the Gaza strip and booted Fatah out.
From heading hopefully towards peace, to a divided Palestine with an increasingly hostile Hamas in the space of 2 years with the IDF possibly playing a significant part in that, it is hard to say that Israel aren’t more than a little responsible for radicalising Hamas further/agitating them. They also hold an awful lot of territory in the West Bank (which Hamas do not control).
It does not seem Israel want peace at all. I cannot imagine they are this incompetent. Not that I’m defending Hamas, they’re absolute assholes. Though. killing 7000 people including 40% children, it is the population of Gaza who are suffering. It is certainly going to help Hamas recruit with so many people losing parents, siblings and relatives. We head away from peace with every single day and it’s so painful to watch this.
well yes, that's why Netanyahu helped build Hamas, because they could weaken the position of the Palestinians who want peace.
Yes I agree. Hamas is a terrorist organization
Even without taking his mind into the palm of your hand, you can see that some things are not worth consuming. If this guy's brain was dinner for aliens it would be thrown in the trash to be recycled.
Where in NA is that happening?
If you read carefully, you will notice that the commenter used the past tense: "had" = simple past tense of the verb "to have".
I love it that I asked a question and noone really cares to answer but down vote me to hell and back. Also someone will snob me from the side telling me about the comment of the guy I asked a question to???????
You're being downvoted because it's a stupid question. It's not happening currently in NA; they're making a comparison to the historical colonization that happened there.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. That's at least what the Sesame Street told me as a child. People should be less entitled and maybe just share information?
I'm sorry, but this is one of those. There are questions that are stupid. There are questions that mislead. There are questions that strongly imply a falsehood. There are questions that insult the audience or the person it's directed to.
You did some of that by wholly misunderstanding a comment and thinking the commenter was daft. It's insulting and you're busy being concerned about your hurt feelings and down votes that don't even add to user karma.
Example: when did you stop beating your SO?
It's an obnoxious and insulting question.
Don't trot out a trite thing we tell children so they don't do stupid things. We're grown here, we know better - or we should.
This didn't age well did it
You need a hobby.
All the points still stand, and now you look even smaller.
That's what she said
I am answering you. The guy you asked a question to was talking about something that had happened in the past. You then asked a question as though you'd misread it and thought he was saying that it was still happening. He didn't say that, so your question is already answered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny
I wish you would receive as many upvotes as I received down votes, thank you.
Not if you kill all the civilians too