I liked her better when I didn't know she was Putin's lapdog.
What happened with her? She seemed okay when she was running a few elections ago and had some support, but then went a bit off and I stopped following her.
Apparently she received some funding that was traced back to Russia and is effectively acting as a spoiler candidate.
she received some funding that was traced back to Russia
that's not true.
Excellent rebuttal backed with facts.
I provided just as much evidence as the comment to which I was responding
You could have asked them for a source then instead of doing something as useless?
I didn't. I refuted it with just as strong a claim as they made. if you think you can get them to provide a source, go for it. I happen to know it's untrue, so I don't care to bicker with them about it.
I meanβ¦. She did go to a gala celebrating the 10th anniversary of Russia Today, which is state controlled propaganda.
so? operation mocking bird implies every us news company is a CIA asset.
No it doesnβt. Operation mockingbird implies that every government tries to influence the narrative of the free press, and literally always has. And the CIA was no exception.
If you see no difference between an attempt to influence the narrative of the free press by the state, and not having a free press at all, only a literal extension of the state serving propaganda as the narrative, I donβt know what to tell you.
this is splitting hairs, and makes no difference in whether it matters that rt is an official government channel. it doesn't because all media is propaganda.
It's a well-established fact that a part of her social media campaign was funded by the Russians.
To be clear: I'm not saying she necessarily did all this in cahoots with Putin. Russia funded divisive ads that boosted Sanders too.
Regardless, Sanders quit the race whilst Stein did not. That means she acted as a spoiler candidate, where a vote for her means it's more likely that a republican candidate wins instead, instead of the democrat candidate that a green voter is likely more aligned with. It's an unfortunate effect of the two-party system.
Nonetheless, those effects are well-known and Stein had a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected. She knew this, but decided to remain on the ballot anyway. Her candidacy therefore did help Trump win the election.
Did you even read the article? Facebook presented no proof of this and you just take it as fact.
part of her social media campaign was funded by the Russians.
no, it wasn't.
Sanders quit the race whilst Stein did not. That means she acted as a spoiler candidate, where a vote for her means itβs more likely that a republican candidate wins instead,
i can do this too!
Sanders quit the race whilst Clinton did not. That means she acted as a spoiler candidate, where a vote for her means itβs more likely that a republican candidate wins instead, instead of the green candidate that a democrat voter is likely more aligned with.
as if Democrats you vote for havenβt sat at a table with Putin before
Such as? Apart from, you know, people who were president and were doing it because presidents generally meet other world leaders?
Bro holy shit she's secretly working for Putin wow
So the U.S. Secretary of State met with a world leader?
You do know Anthony Blinken does that all the time, right?
That's not a very good example.
No you don't get it she's sitting near Putin so she's working for him
What are you talking about? I never said anything about working for Putin.
I did. I have proof Hilary is working for Putin, the evidence is obvious, look how close they're sitting
Ok? Why are you telling me?
Such as?
If the claim is that Democrats in a presidential administration have met with Putin and that's the same as meeting with Putin in a non-official unelected capacity, it's a poor one.
Also, I thought you had dismissed me as a troll. Make up your mind.
You're pretending that meeting with Putin as part of her official duties is the same as associating with him socially.
Explain what the event was and how it proves Jill Stein is working for Putin. You can't.
IIRC the event was literally an RT conference promoting how RT signal boosted "real change" candidates, coincidentally at the same time as an American politician that Putin had personally nursed a grudge against was running while associated with the establishment line.
IE, "We're here today to celebrate our alliance of making sure anyone but Hillary is able to win!"
she's a presidential candidate. i don't think there is a meaningful difference in stature, but there is in substance: she never exchanged a word with him or shook his hand, unlike the fascists and fascist-enablers you're defending.
Wow. She somehow got herself a seat at Putin's table, then she sat down quietly, politely ate her sandwich, then got up and left without ever saying a word or interacting with the people at the table?
How unlucky she must have felt to find herself such an awkward situation. Egg on her face and all that.
if was her table. he sat there for a couple minutes.
I see. So Putin sat down at her table, uninvited, didn't introduce himself, she didn't comment on it, then he, Michael Flynn, and all the others finished their sandwiches and left Jill Stein in peace to eat her lunch alone.
I can see how that absolves her. But man, what a shitty thing to happen to someone when they just want to enjoy their soup and crackers in peace. With this one little social faux pas, Putin made millions of people across the country believe she was his stooge.
When she becomes president, what do you think she is going to do to retaliate against Putin for fucking her image so bad?
I imagine shed be focused on meaningful issues, not chasing down Rachel Maddie's Boogeyman.
What are her meaningful issues?
when I voted for her in 2016, it was for student loan forgiveness. and shutting down the keystone xl
Both of those sound great. How does she plan on accomplishing those with our deadlocked legislature?
Her job at this time was to lead the foreign relations of the US. This job entails meeting many years of state who the US has serious disagreement with. It is a part of the job. This is not at all the same as going to dinner for fun
No you don't get it, look how close they are, the closer they are the more corrupt
I liked her better when I didn't know she was Putin's lapdog.
What happened with her? She seemed okay when she was running a few elections ago and had some support, but then went a bit off and I stopped following her.
Apparently she received some funding that was traced back to Russia and is effectively acting as a spoiler candidate.
that's not true.
Excellent rebuttal backed with facts.
I provided just as much evidence as the comment to which I was responding
You could have asked them for a source then instead of doing something as useless?
I didn't. I refuted it with just as strong a claim as they made. if you think you can get them to provide a source, go for it. I happen to know it's untrue, so I don't care to bicker with them about it.
I meanβ¦. She did go to a gala celebrating the 10th anniversary of Russia Today, which is state controlled propaganda.
so? operation mocking bird implies every us news company is a CIA asset.
No it doesnβt. Operation mockingbird implies that every government tries to influence the narrative of the free press, and literally always has. And the CIA was no exception.
If you see no difference between an attempt to influence the narrative of the free press by the state, and not having a free press at all, only a literal extension of the state serving propaganda as the narrative, I donβt know what to tell you.
this is splitting hairs, and makes no difference in whether it matters that rt is an official government channel. it doesn't because all media is propaganda.
Amazing take.
Source: your ass
All you liberals have is a picture of her at a table with Putin as if Democrats you vote for haven't sat at a table with Putin before
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/26/facebook-russia-trump-sanders-stein-243172
It's a well-established fact that a part of her social media campaign was funded by the Russians.
To be clear: I'm not saying she necessarily did all this in cahoots with Putin. Russia funded divisive ads that boosted Sanders too. Regardless, Sanders quit the race whilst Stein did not. That means she acted as a spoiler candidate, where a vote for her means it's more likely that a republican candidate wins instead, instead of the democrat candidate that a green voter is likely more aligned with. It's an unfortunate effect of the two-party system. Nonetheless, those effects are well-known and Stein had a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected. She knew this, but decided to remain on the ballot anyway. Her candidacy therefore did help Trump win the election.
Did you even read the article? Facebook presented no proof of this and you just take it as fact.
no, it wasn't.
i can do this too!
Sanders quit the race whilst Clinton did not. That means she acted as a spoiler candidate, where a vote for her means itβs more likely that a republican candidate wins instead, instead of the green candidate that a democrat voter is likely more aligned with.
Such as? Apart from, you know, people who were president and were doing it because presidents generally meet other world leaders?
https://images.app.goo.gl/mnWN3T5Rhi7Rs8Dr5
Bro holy shit she's secretly working for Putin wow
So the U.S. Secretary of State met with a world leader?
You do know Anthony Blinken does that all the time, right?
That's not a very good example.
No you don't get it she's sitting near Putin so she's working for him
What are you talking about? I never said anything about working for Putin.
I did. I have proof Hilary is working for Putin, the evidence is obvious, look how close they're sitting
Ok? Why are you telling me?
If the claim is that Democrats in a presidential administration have met with Putin and that's the same as meeting with Putin in a non-official unelected capacity, it's a poor one.
Also, I thought you had dismissed me as a troll. Make up your mind.
You're pretending that meeting with Putin as part of her official duties is the same as associating with him socially.
Explain what the event was and how it proves Jill Stein is working for Putin. You can't.
IIRC the event was literally an RT conference promoting how RT signal boosted "real change" candidates, coincidentally at the same time as an American politician that Putin had personally nursed a grudge against was running while associated with the establishment line.
IE, "We're here today to celebrate our alliance of making sure anyone but Hillary is able to win!"
You're so full of shit.
Fuck you on about it's literally an RT event
Read your sources
I did, it said nothing about the nonsense you were spouting
she's a presidential candidate. i don't think there is a meaningful difference in stature, but there is in substance: she never exchanged a word with him or shook his hand, unlike the fascists and fascist-enablers you're defending.
Wow. She somehow got herself a seat at Putin's table, then she sat down quietly, politely ate her sandwich, then got up and left without ever saying a word or interacting with the people at the table?
How unlucky she must have felt to find herself such an awkward situation. Egg on her face and all that.
if was her table. he sat there for a couple minutes.
I see. So Putin sat down at her table, uninvited, didn't introduce himself, she didn't comment on it, then he, Michael Flynn, and all the others finished their sandwiches and left Jill Stein in peace to eat her lunch alone.
I can see how that absolves her. But man, what a shitty thing to happen to someone when they just want to enjoy their soup and crackers in peace. With this one little social faux pas, Putin made millions of people across the country believe she was his stooge.
When she becomes president, what do you think she is going to do to retaliate against Putin for fucking her image so bad?
I imagine shed be focused on meaningful issues, not chasing down Rachel Maddie's Boogeyman.
What are her meaningful issues?
when I voted for her in 2016, it was for student loan forgiveness. and shutting down the keystone xl
Both of those sound great. How does she plan on accomplishing those with our deadlocked legislature?
For example?
https://images.app.goo.gl/mnWN3T5Rhi7Rs8Dr5
OMG she's a Putin puppet you see that??
Her job at this time was to lead the foreign relations of the US. This job entails meeting many years of state who the US has serious disagreement with. It is a part of the job. This is not at all the same as going to dinner for fun
No you don't get it, look how close they are, the closer they are the more corrupt
she's not, so you can like her again.