US destroyer has ballistic missiles fired toward it, after responding to attack on commercial tanker

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Two ballistic missiles were fired from Houthi rebel-controlled Yemen toward a US warship in the Gulf of Aden, after the US Navy responded to a distress call from a commercial tanker that had been seized by armed individuals, the US military said Sunday.

The tanker, identified as the Central Park, had been carrying a cargo of phosphoric acid when its crew called for help that “they were under attack from an unknown entity,” the US Central Command said in a statement.

The USS Mason, a guided-missile destroyer, and allied ships from a counter-piracy task force that operates in the Gulf of Aden and off the coast of Somalia responded to the call for help and “demanded release of the vessel” upon arrival, Central Command said.

“Subsequently, five armed individuals debarked the ship and attempted to flee via their small boat,” said the statement posted on social media platform X.

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Isn’t there two types of missiles? The distinction matters, why would you assume it’s intercontinental based off of the type of missile? Cruise or ballistic can both be intercontinental.

It just means they follow a ballistic trajectory instead of direct fire like a tow missile.

It doesn't really matter no, they're just trying to make it sound scary. You gotta remember like half or more of the population won't know that and don't have the critical thinking to look it up.

Fun fact in this case it's a ballistic and a cruise missile. Likely a sayyad version of the qud missile which is itself likely a recased version of an Iranian missile.

How are they trying to make it sound scary? They are literally just telling you the type of missle. Cruise vs ballistic. Anything else is in your head.

People don’t need to look anything up, it’s not denoted as intercontinental, so why would you assume that?

You’re the one trying to make it sound scary lmfao. The article is fine and don’t claim critical thinking when you’re lacking it yourself. People aren’t going to assume icbm since it wasn’t ever mentioned until you did….

The vast majority of the public understands "missile fired from ship" to mean a missile fired from a ship, like they've seen in the movies. Hits the ship and goes boom. "Ballistic missile" invokes the misunderstanding of a missile with a nuke attached as the warhead.

Don’t fall out of your chair reaching like that.

The media says ballistic missiles when they want to invoke the idea of ICBM with nuclear warheads. If you didn't realize that, then you've never watched the news during a time of tense international relations, which means you're likely quite young. No reaching required.

Not young at all and no they aren’t. There’s nothing to imply icbm from ballistic, cruise would be more worrisome in reality than ballistic, so making the distinction removes an issue there.

And why are you assuming nuclear with icbm? None of those are related unless you make the biased connection.

You are reaching even worse now…..

It's called sensationaliam, adding a detail for no reason in the headline is the very definition of it.

I don't. Many people will, I guarantee it.

No, I'm not trying to make anything scary saying it's sensationalized is the very opposite of that.

Take your complaint up with US Central Command, they're the ones who described them as "ballistic missiles". It's not sensationalizing to use the phrase your sources use, they'd be criticized for bad reporting if they just said "missiles"

They are ballistic missiles, the fact that it's in the title is the irrelevant part because people see "ballistic" and go ooo that must be bad when in reality a ballistic missile against a us destroyer is an insanely idiotic waste of money.

Why would people think ballistic is bad? You seem to be the only one inferring that here.

It's an important fact. These rebels are well known to be supplied by Iran, specifically with ballistic missiles which they have used before against Saudi targets.

And they would be supplying them with missiles if we remove the distinction.

What’s your point?

In a military incident, what ordnance is used matters.

Yes so saying ballistic instead of just missile is an important distinction.

I've already explained this, I'm not responsible for anyone else's reading comprehension bud.

You’ve explained incorrectly with your bias leading.

Sensationalism isn’t just adding words, there must be intent there and you’re just assuming intent.

You claim critical thinking and this and that, yet it only sounds like you had sensationalism arms your word of the day and are taking it at face value. Instead of understanding that intent also matters.

Try some critical thinking of your own, and maybe some reading comprehension as well if you want to try and use that against others. Which is incredibly ironic considering you’ve proved that lack of yours by assuming all of this and missing the intent….

I didn't lead anyone anywhere bud.

That's quite literally sensationalism. Instead of houthi missile it's houti make ballistic missile so the uneducated go "wait they have ballistic missiles" and read a story that is a nothing burger. It's like the seventh time they've been attacked loitering in the area.

Nope, you're judging it based on people that actually read like most of us in world News. The average person is not smart, and lacks critical thinking and judging by how many people don't get it they number may be a bit higher than I assumed. Yes intent matters, that's why they added ballistic lol.

No need, but you probably aught to rethink some things yourself.

Yes… yes you did lead, your sensationalizing of the headline border on propaganda due to the bias you’ve presented….

If they didn’t clarify ballistic, people would assume it was a much more sophisticated cruise missile. Sensationalism another way.

Since the average person lacks critical thinking (like you here again) they would put ballistic missile to remove sensationalism and propaganda that can be built by bad actors (you again here), since now someone doesn’t need to do extra research or further reading to find, no they are safe since they aren’t intercontinental or smart cruise missiles.

Thank god they told us they were dumb missiles.

You don't see the problem with saying I'm sensationalizing something by pointing out sensationalism? Doesn't make much sense does it?

No they would assume it's a missile, why do you assume it would mean cruise missile they're not even the most common missile type direct fire guided are.

Ballistic adds a reason to click, "wait houthis have ballistic missiles?" so they click and read. You still need to do extra research if you don't know what a ballistic missile is, it's never actually mentioned.

Intermediate range missile is more accurate and less sensational.

Projectile is very cromulent non-sensationalizing term, let’s use that. Oh wait, they were relaying communication and it would be unethical for them to relay different information.

Lots of avenues we could also go down, just give it up.

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Except a ballistic missile often invokes the image of an low tech, unguided mortar more than it does an intercontinental nuke. You calling it "sensationalized" is implying it's the worse thing when it's clearly not.

No an unguided missile in military parlance is a rocket and yes probably a ballistic one. But way to prove my point, your average person has no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

It’s not sensationalized, it’s an important distinction.

It would be like an article mentioning a vehicle involved in a collision is a truck instead of a car. How would that be sensationalism?

Again, you’re the one attempting to make a non-issue scary. This isn’t sensationalism by any stretch of the defintion.

It's not.

Does the word ballistic materially change the subject of the article? No it's an unnecessary adjective. And yes your example would be as well. They tried to make it sound worse, it's a shitty Iranian missile fired well under maximum range it being ballistic is irrelevant aside from being an idiotic choice.

Not at all. How exactly do you get that out of my comments.

How does telling you the type of missle make it sound worse? Because you think and want it to…?

Any headline can be stripped down and made to be sensationalized if you can never ever use an adjective. It’s only sensationalized in your head since you want it to be, you’re the biased one here.

How is my example sensationalized? Please explain to the rest of class so we can understand why you’re so biased here.

For reasons already stated, it's not hard to understand. You should read Chomsky if you don't understand the importance of words.

Again, remove ballistic and it changes nothing but adding it makes it sound worse. That's sensationalism.

There's no bias and I'm pretty sure I told you why I'm my last response didn't I .

No you haven’t explained anything, you just keep repeating the same thing and I keep telling you that’s not actually sensationalism, since it’s not.

Try something else, sensationalism isn’t just adding words, it’s adding words to intentionally mislead.

You’re the one misleading here, not the headline.

Try again.

I've repeatedly explained sensationalism, I'm not sure why you're saying I haven't.

It literally is.

Not at all.

Try what again?

You haven’t explained sensationalism, you’ve sensationalized the definition really.

Sensationalism requires intent, there is no intent to mislead here so there is no sensationalism. Sorry you can’t think critically enough to comprehend this.

Try to explain this is sensationalism, your explanation you’ve tried doesn’t work since intent is needed and it’s lacking here. So try again to prove this is sensationalism.

Heres a hint, omitting words can also be sensationalism, so yeah… its not just adding words like you’ve previously claimed.

How so, should be easy to example how I'm wrong.

It’s been explained multiple times, you need to explain how’s its sensationalism.

I explained removing (others have too) that removing the word ballistic would also be sensationalism, since sensationalism ISN’T just adding words like you keep incorrectly perpetuating.

I won't read Chompsky because I know the importance of words

The dude thinks the USA invented propaganda and no other country uses it

Apparently not.

And no they didn't, propaganda is much older than England let alone the US and we're certainly not the only ones to use it but way to prove that lack of critical thinking.

I believe you misread my comment, I said that Chomsky seems to believe the US invented propaganda

Boat A responded to a call from Boat B that was under attack in the water. Boat A fired warning shots and used a weapon to deflect an incoming weapon. No injuries or damage were reported. The incident is being investigated.

Better?

Well yes, but actually no.

We both know you didn't have to remove all the detail along with the sensationalized detail. You're just trying to be petty about it.

Well that’s their point, where’s the line of sensationalized detail? Calling it a missile can be sensationalism to some people.

Also, omitting details is sensationalism as well, it’s not just adding words. They sensationalized the headline with omissions to make a point.

Calling it a missile can be sensationalism to some people.

People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts. It's a "missile" if it has a means of self-propulsion (otherwise it's a "bullet" or "shell") and a guidance system (otherwise it's a "rocket"). Maybe some people would think calling a missile what it is is sensationalism, but they're just wrong.

They sensationalized the headline with omissions to make a point.

Yes, I'm aware of what they were trying to do. Their point was stupid and they were petty to make it.

I’ve always wondered what the difference is between a “rocket” and a “missile”, but constantly forget to look it up. Now I know it’s a guidance system. Thanks!

Ballistic missiles don’t usually have guidance systems though…. Those are cruise missiles and why the original articles distinction matters.

A missile is a rocket with a payload, which is just a projectile with an engine.

The article better just call it a projectile to avoid any avenue of sensationalism.

Fact, it’s a projectile.

Describing it further as a missile, bullet, mortar, shell. Can all be considered sensationalism.

You seem to have missed the point, where’s the line of a description being sensationalism?

A ballistic missile is sensationalized of missile, missile is sensationalized of projectile. Projectile is sensationalized of weapon.

Where’s the line dude……?

Describing it further as a missile, bullet, mortar, shell. Can all be considered sensationalism.

No, that's a lie. Words have meanings and you aren't entitled to pretend "missile" isn't factually accurate.

It is factually correct, just like ballistic missile is too. It lets you know it’s a dumb missle vs a smart one.

If that distinction isn’t important, why is missile over projectile?

You still missed the point entirely… do you need a stool or something? You can’t have your cake and eat it too lmfao. You’re being a massively hypocritcal troll if missile is important over projectile, but not clarifying ballistic as well. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Buddy was being a little pedantic with their example, but it was needed, multiple people (you included) are putting bias into sensationalism, and sometimes the only way to point that out is through exaggeration.

It’s funny that you STILL missed their point and are arguing that missile is important over projectile/weapon, but not ballistic…. Lmfao.

Nope detail to convey the subject is good, irrelevant detail to draw clicks isn't.

If someone sensationalizes a situation or event, they make it seem worse or more shocking than it really is.

Mads, it's time for your takes to get wildly less insane.

Aww still salty Mr bigot? Here to make fun of my disability or some shitty racist take on houthis?

Ed: almost forgot. You're a bigot, at least be an honest bigot. An ashamed Nazi is still a Nazi.

This is a really good look for you.

How's that bud, you get actively called out for being a troll on like 80% of your comments what leg have you to stand on?

Should I link your bigoted sexist bullshit? Or how about your bigoted ableist bullshit? Pick your poison or I'll pick it for ya.

You're a bigot, at least be an honest bigot. An ashamed Nazi is still a Nazi after all.

No one has ever called me out for trolling because I don't troll unless someone gets unhinged

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You're full of shit.

Ed: gave you the choice, you didn't take it. Enjoy.

You don't seem like you smile much when men are around, and that's a sign of crazy.

https://lemmy.world/comment/5520540

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