Oh I know what they put them there for. I just find it obscene.
I dunno, people get confused by 12pm often, this feels like a relatively elegant solution.
Solution could be to learn what AM and PM means.
Ante meridiem (before midday) and post meridiem (after midday).
Or use 24h time. Then you can omit the midday factor altogether.
Well, the definitions aren't really all that helpful. 12pm is neither before nor after midday, while 12am is exactly 12 hours before and after midday.
Easy way to think about it is that 12 is actually the 0th hour.
0 AM and 0 PM make more sense.
I wish everyone just used military time.
0:00 to 23:59. Nothing to screw up.
12am...12 hours...after midnight??
Okay if somehow one can't figure out that night comes after day, then one can hopefully count and know that 12 comes after 1. 1AM is in the middle of the night so 11 hours later, 12AM would be noon. 12AM obviously doesn't come before 1AM, thus midnight is 12PM, because midnight is when one day rolls over to the next and you get morning (or before midday) again.
Crazy thing is I can't tell if you explained it incorrectly on purpose to show how confusing it is, or if you did it accidentally.
Except the most widespread definition is the other way around: 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. As that source argues, 12:01 during the day is clearly after noon, so it must be pm.
In the end my point stands: You can argue both ways and it is confusing.
I think it would be weird going from 12am (ante meridiem = before noon) to 12:01pm (post meridiem = after noon), therefore 12pm must come right before 12:01pm, so 12pm is noon.
'this often confuses people'
'here's a solution: learn'
Of course there’s also that other solution. You know, the one the rest of the world uses.
Suddenly having a base with 12 is good? I bet you split hours into fractions too.
/joke
Ew, but it's foreign!
If you don’t know what nn and mn mean it means nothing.
I can never differ between am and pm, because we don't use that here - well, at least I always mix it up
Oh I know what they put them there for. I just find it obscene.
I dunno, people get confused by 12pm often, this feels like a relatively elegant solution.
Solution could be to learn what AM and PM means. Ante meridiem (before midday) and post meridiem (after midday).
Or use 24h time. Then you can omit the midday factor altogether.
Well, the definitions aren't really all that helpful. 12pm is neither before nor after midday, while 12am is exactly 12 hours before and after midday.
Easy way to think about it is that 12 is actually the 0th hour.
0 AM and 0 PM make more sense.
I wish everyone just used military time.
0:00 to 23:59. Nothing to screw up.
12am...12 hours...after midnight??
Okay if somehow one can't figure out that night comes after day, then one can hopefully count and know that 12 comes after 1. 1AM is in the middle of the night so 11 hours later, 12AM would be noon. 12AM obviously doesn't come before 1AM, thus midnight is 12PM, because midnight is when one day rolls over to the next and you get morning (or before midday) again.
Crazy thing is I can't tell if you explained it incorrectly on purpose to show how confusing it is, or if you did it accidentally.
Except the most widespread definition is the other way around: 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. As that source argues, 12:01 during the day is clearly after noon, so it must be pm.
In the end my point stands: You can argue both ways and it is confusing.
I think it would be weird going from 12am (ante meridiem = before noon) to 12:01pm (post meridiem = after noon), therefore 12pm must come right before 12:01pm, so 12pm is noon.
'this often confuses people'
'here's a solution: learn'
Of course there’s also that other solution. You know, the one the rest of the world uses.
Suddenly having a base with 12 is good? I bet you split hours into fractions too.
/joke
Ew, but it's foreign!
If you don’t know what nn and mn mean it means nothing.
I can never differ between am and pm, because we don't use that here - well, at least I always mix it up
mn instead was very intuitive