My wages have not gone up and the prices i pay are still going up.
"fool! If you knew economics better you'd understand that your buying power is the wrongest metric. Look at the stonks you uncultured swine!"
-a super smart economist, probably
I had someone try to tell me that the economy is better than ever, people are more rich than ever, and my "personal anecdotal evidence" can be completely dismissed.
It's no longer "personal anecdotal evidence" when 150,000,000 people are experiencing the same thing just in my own country.
Mine and my wife’s have, it’s all anecdata, but we’re doing better than before.
Min wage not increasing and prices increasing isnt anecdotal
At least where I am, no one makes minimum wage. Fast food and retail jobs are $17+/hr.
Minimum wage is irrelevant if the prevailing wages are higher. It seems like monthly we're hearing that a union has signed a new record breaking pay agreement.
Get in a union. Or keep changing jobs just going to wherever will pay you the most.
I have a union job and a non union part time job. Pay has gone up a decent chunk at both over the past few years.
"Just get a new job" is a completely asinine take. Many many reasons people can't. Someone with a family working full time doesn't have the time or energy to develop the skills for a better job. Someone at fast food in a small town has the choice of other fast food or other retail which all pays the same.
In my wife's case, she cares for a disabled family member. If she didn't do it, nobody would. She has no choice.
I mean I agree it’s not a very helpful take, but it is true. Right now is the best time in history to educate yourself and build skill sets that are marketable
I'm interested to know is that your wife's job? You started out by saying people can't just get a new job. Which is fair. But I'm confused as to if she is actually working. Not to say it's a bad thing either way. We gotta do what we gotta do.
The whole get a new job thing doesn't work for everybody. But the main point behind it is employers are more competitive when searching for new talent. Thus hire wages. You don't necessarily have to learn a new skill or change industries. Hopping from McDonald's to Burger King might get you more money in comparison to waiting for a raise. Depends on your market and your industry.
Which part of "cares for a disabled family member" is hard to understand?
Is it confusing to you that someone would care for someone else?
If you chose to live in a small and isolated town, have no skills beyond line staff at a fast food restaurant, are unable to promote up to management there, and unwilling to travel, I'm sorry, but you sound like you dug yourself into a hole. I have a job I enjoy a lot, even if it's not very high paying, but I still have the experience and skill set to go off and get at least 3 other jobs in 3 other fields that would pay me more, or even getting a job doing what I do now but at a higher paying place, but like I said. I like where I'm at.
Stuff is expensive as hell now, but you can do something about it. It sounds like you may not want to choose any options that exist, though. If you're dealing with something that totally prevents you from doing so. But hell, even work from home Apple help support reps start at like $45k/ year.
If you chose to live in a small and isolated down,
And then on any post about housing prices, all you see are comments like "well you chose to live in an urban area!! If you liberals would just move to rural Alabama you could afford your rent!1!" So which is it?
Then I get downvoted for saying there's a million reasons people can't just up and move, including a lack of jobs and other resources in rural areas. Besides, a majority of people don't necessarily choose where they live. There are countless socioeconomic circumstances that dictate that.
It's just proof that people continue to fall for placing the blame on one another when it should really be directed straight upwards.
You sound like a 20 something, childless white guy that was spoonfed fox News. Glad you had time to build new skills. Some people have children or ailing/disabled families. Some people already work 2 jobs.
Some people struggle, even when they do everything right. Callous ass.
Lol. Holy shit did you fly way off the mark. Try going with 40's, fam with kids, and lean left. Housing assistance,snap, socialized medicine, taxing the wealthy, and all.
Sure, you can have bad luck and get screwed in life, but right now the job market is WAY better than when I got out of highschool just before 9-11 happened. You can get a work from home job at $20 an hour right now, I drive a class B truck as a side job for $26 an hour, and there's a rock quarry that hires green people for over $25/hr that end you up close to $35 after two years. I don't live in some fantastic state, either. Midwest.
Right now there's a ton of work available if you go get your feet wet. The younger than me generation is screwed on housing costs right now. I'll give you that, but so was most of my generation. But you also have the ease of an online education and remote learning making it far easier and cheaper to get into some things than anyone else before has. The job market was terrible when I got out of school. Now unemployment is low and unions are getting a hold again and companies are all having to pay more just to poach other companies for people. John Deer will hire you, pay you to go through their 6 month program to learn how to work on their tractors, give you a truck tool box decked out with tools and send you off as a repair tech for them for like $70k a year. There's not a mechanic shop in the country that isn't behind right now due to the high vehicle prices causing people to hold their old vehicles together longer that wouldn't like another person to do mechanic stuff.
I'm rambling, but the point is, there are pretty ok jobs out there right now. Businesses are willing to train you on the job from knowing almost nothing at this point. If you look and don't live in the middle of nowhere, you can probably get hired doing something that pays better than wherever you're at. Today's economy no longer rewards loyalty.
I'll talk to biden and let him know of your situation. I'm sure he will do something tomorrow dw.
Ill let him know next November
Trump will 100% be great for your life 💯💯💯💯
Oh boi i get to choose between my life getting worse and my life getting worse.
BoTh SiDes is defeatist bullshit and just an excuse for mental laziness. Try thinking for a change.
The thing is for a great many people they don't care. They aren't getting deported. They aren't getting shit on any worse than with Biden.
That may change, but it didn't in Trump's first term. Biden has to be better now, for the working class, than Trump was. And he just isn't.
The POTUS has little control over the economy. But the economy is way better than when Trump left office, and the outlook is thousands of times better.
It's just that people bought the claim that somehow the economy going to shit under trump wasn't his fault (it wasn't) but now that the same thing that fucked trump is still fucking shit up, it's Bidens fault.
Is the suggestion here that minorities shouldn't or don't matter even though they are a solid chunk of the working class?
You're talking at me and not taking in what im saying. Working full time every week, my life is worse off now than before Biden took office. Im not going to vote to make my life worse.
I do hear what you're saying. You apparently think another option would be better, despite the mountains of evidence against that
The mountains of what? What evidence? Evidence of presidencies besides Biden and Trump's??
Worse off during Biden is different from worse off because of Biden. Hitting the brakes while going downhill 200 MPH doesn't completely stop you from going more downhill. Every modern Republican has been so incredibly short-sighted that it's genuinely destroying our future by insane levels.
My wages have not gone up and the prices i pay are still going up.
"fool! If you knew economics better you'd understand that your buying power is the wrongest metric. Look at the stonks you uncultured swine!"
-a super smart economist, probably
I had someone try to tell me that the economy is better than ever, people are more rich than ever, and my "personal anecdotal evidence" can be completely dismissed.
It's no longer "personal anecdotal evidence" when 150,000,000 people are experiencing the same thing just in my own country.
How does this garbage have any upvotes?
Mine and my wife’s have, it’s all anecdata, but we’re doing better than before.
Min wage not increasing and prices increasing isnt anecdotal
At least where I am, no one makes minimum wage. Fast food and retail jobs are $17+/hr.
Minimum wage is irrelevant if the prevailing wages are higher. It seems like monthly we're hearing that a union has signed a new record breaking pay agreement.
That is not anecdotal - pay is going up: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t19.htm https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wages
Get in a union. Or keep changing jobs just going to wherever will pay you the most.
I have a union job and a non union part time job. Pay has gone up a decent chunk at both over the past few years.
"Just get a new job" is a completely asinine take. Many many reasons people can't. Someone with a family working full time doesn't have the time or energy to develop the skills for a better job. Someone at fast food in a small town has the choice of other fast food or other retail which all pays the same.
In my wife's case, she cares for a disabled family member. If she didn't do it, nobody would. She has no choice.
I mean I agree it’s not a very helpful take, but it is true. Right now is the best time in history to educate yourself and build skill sets that are marketable
I'm interested to know is that your wife's job? You started out by saying people can't just get a new job. Which is fair. But I'm confused as to if she is actually working. Not to say it's a bad thing either way. We gotta do what we gotta do.
The whole get a new job thing doesn't work for everybody. But the main point behind it is employers are more competitive when searching for new talent. Thus hire wages. You don't necessarily have to learn a new skill or change industries. Hopping from McDonald's to Burger King might get you more money in comparison to waiting for a raise. Depends on your market and your industry.
Which part of "cares for a disabled family member" is hard to understand?
Is it confusing to you that someone would care for someone else?
..or is it just a general lack of empathy?
If you chose to live in a small and isolated town, have no skills beyond line staff at a fast food restaurant, are unable to promote up to management there, and unwilling to travel, I'm sorry, but you sound like you dug yourself into a hole. I have a job I enjoy a lot, even if it's not very high paying, but I still have the experience and skill set to go off and get at least 3 other jobs in 3 other fields that would pay me more, or even getting a job doing what I do now but at a higher paying place, but like I said. I like where I'm at.
Stuff is expensive as hell now, but you can do something about it. It sounds like you may not want to choose any options that exist, though. If you're dealing with something that totally prevents you from doing so. But hell, even work from home Apple help support reps start at like $45k/ year.
And then on any post about housing prices, all you see are comments like "well you chose to live in an urban area!! If you liberals would just move to rural Alabama you could afford your rent!1!" So which is it?
Then I get downvoted for saying there's a million reasons people can't just up and move, including a lack of jobs and other resources in rural areas. Besides, a majority of people don't necessarily choose where they live. There are countless socioeconomic circumstances that dictate that.
It's just proof that people continue to fall for placing the blame on one another when it should really be directed straight upwards.
You sound like a 20 something, childless white guy that was spoonfed fox News. Glad you had time to build new skills. Some people have children or ailing/disabled families. Some people already work 2 jobs.
Some people struggle, even when they do everything right. Callous ass.
Lol. Holy shit did you fly way off the mark. Try going with 40's, fam with kids, and lean left. Housing assistance,snap, socialized medicine, taxing the wealthy, and all.
Sure, you can have bad luck and get screwed in life, but right now the job market is WAY better than when I got out of highschool just before 9-11 happened. You can get a work from home job at $20 an hour right now, I drive a class B truck as a side job for $26 an hour, and there's a rock quarry that hires green people for over $25/hr that end you up close to $35 after two years. I don't live in some fantastic state, either. Midwest.
Right now there's a ton of work available if you go get your feet wet. The younger than me generation is screwed on housing costs right now. I'll give you that, but so was most of my generation. But you also have the ease of an online education and remote learning making it far easier and cheaper to get into some things than anyone else before has. The job market was terrible when I got out of school. Now unemployment is low and unions are getting a hold again and companies are all having to pay more just to poach other companies for people. John Deer will hire you, pay you to go through their 6 month program to learn how to work on their tractors, give you a truck tool box decked out with tools and send you off as a repair tech for them for like $70k a year. There's not a mechanic shop in the country that isn't behind right now due to the high vehicle prices causing people to hold their old vehicles together longer that wouldn't like another person to do mechanic stuff.
I'm rambling, but the point is, there are pretty ok jobs out there right now. Businesses are willing to train you on the job from knowing almost nothing at this point. If you look and don't live in the middle of nowhere, you can probably get hired doing something that pays better than wherever you're at. Today's economy no longer rewards loyalty.
I'll talk to biden and let him know of your situation. I'm sure he will do something tomorrow dw.
Ill let him know next November
Trump will 100% be great for your life 💯💯💯💯
Oh boi i get to choose between my life getting worse and my life getting worse.
BoTh SiDes is defeatist bullshit and just an excuse for mental laziness. Try thinking for a change.
The thing is for a great many people they don't care. They aren't getting deported. They aren't getting shit on any worse than with Biden.
That may change, but it didn't in Trump's first term. Biden has to be better now, for the working class, than Trump was. And he just isn't.
The POTUS has little control over the economy. But the economy is way better than when Trump left office, and the outlook is thousands of times better.
It's just that people bought the claim that somehow the economy going to shit under trump wasn't his fault (it wasn't) but now that the same thing that fucked trump is still fucking shit up, it's Bidens fault.
Is the suggestion here that minorities shouldn't or don't matter even though they are a solid chunk of the working class?
You're talking at me and not taking in what im saying. Working full time every week, my life is worse off now than before Biden took office. Im not going to vote to make my life worse.
I do hear what you're saying. You apparently think another option would be better, despite the mountains of evidence against that
The mountains of what? What evidence? Evidence of presidencies besides Biden and Trump's??
Worse off during Biden is different from worse off because of Biden. Hitting the brakes while going downhill 200 MPH doesn't completely stop you from going more downhill. Every modern Republican has been so incredibly short-sighted that it's genuinely destroying our future by insane levels.