Joe Biden calls trans people “fabric of our nation” in Trans Day of Visibility proclamation
In commemoration of the upcoming Transgender Day of Visibility (TDOV), President Joe Biden issued a statement praising trans people’s contributions to society and describing actions his administration has taken to counter transphobic bullying and extremism. Additionally, many members of Biden’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) also issued their own statements affirming that community health depends on supporting trans people too.
“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation,” Biden wrote in his statement. “Whether serving their communities or in the military, raising families or running businesses, they help America thrive. They deserve, and are entitled to, the same rights and freedoms as every other American, including the most fundamental freedom to be their true selves.”
I'm a trans person and condemn anyone who won't vote to stop a fascist dictator that wants me dead from obtaining the nuclear codes
i've been trying to find someone who's life had been impacted by biden's support of don't-ask-don't-tell; defense-of-marriage-act; executive-order-10450; ice; straight-marriage-only-in-2006 to ask if they still support him; but it seems that only the young who are ignorant of his past; those who "avoid politics"; and those that were never affected universally support him.
if you're not one of these three groups; i'd like to hear your thoughts on why he switched to pro-lgbt: do you think it's because it was more politically advantageous of him? did he hate lgbt in the past because it acceptable and, if so, if it were still acceptable would he continue to hate lgbt?
i ask because my life has been thoroughly fucked by each one of these policies and it took A LOT of effort to rebuild my life so it's obvious that i wouldn't support him; but i'm wondering if there's anyone else out there whose life has also been thoroughly fucked by these policies, but still support him somehow.
I'm only voting for him because the other option and inaction are death sentences. I don't like the guy at all and would vote for someone else given the option.
That said, for all his centrist tendencies he does seem to occasionally cave in to pressure. It just takes time.
That moment when doing what your constituents want you to do is "caving to pressure" ugh
This is a Democracy. Biden was elected to enact the will of the people. If all of a sudden America became fascinated with the color yellow, I would expect him to start wearing yellow pins. If the American people change their minds, our elected leaders should also change their minds, because they work for us.
i don't know about you; but i've been voting for the "lesser evil" for 40 years now and there's never been anything other than voting for the "lesser evil" each time.
i've started to believe that our circumstances are engineered so that we will only continue to get the "lesser evil" guaranteeing that we will eventually get the greater evil anyways and biden doesn't have another 25 years to cave in to pressure.
Petition for an end to FPTP voting if you want to see change.
How does that follow?
If you keep voting hard enough for the lesser evil every time, you make things less evil. That's how democracy works.
Or are you one of those silly people who never votes in the primaries?
here's your strawman-esque argument with another one: lesser evil and evil work towards the same goal; it's only difference at the speed at which its executed so voting for the lesser evil means that we'll get there no matter what.
Ah, so you're one of the tinfoil hat Joe Rogan types.
Voting for the lesser evil brought us expanded healthcare that saved thousands of lives. It brought us legal recognition of gay marriage. It brought us all the social progress that you're completely ignoring.
"Both sides"ism brought us the end of abortion protections.
There is no grand conspiracy to make your life horrible. It's just one evil party, one good party, and you in the middle refusing to pick because you're scared of having any agency in your life.
so much to unpack here, so there's good reason not to engage further; except to point out that you're drinking too much blue maga koolaid.
you're the only one to mention "both sides" while this biden voter will only blame democrats if biden loses; not other leftists.
Start with unpacking this, if you can.
Unfortunately, you're going to be voting for "not the other option" for the rest of your life since democrats will see that this is the perfect strategy they can use to never have to actually change the status quo.
Finally standing up to Benjamin Netanyahu and all those Americans who keep voting for him
Well yeah I condemn any Israeli who votes for him as well.
Yeah you're cool with voting in the fascist killing Palestinians, and shitting on people for caring about genocide. Very cool.
I don't like it either, but at least he's not calling for Israel to finish the job (with a nuke). This is how low our standards have dropped.
It's a 10 day old account, they are 100% a bad faith actor, and you know this because they don't acknowledge any of the ways to push for better treatment of Palestinian civilians. They are using them as a prop to tell people to not vote for Joe Biden (which is its own brand of fucked up privileged), even though Joe Biden is pretty famous for being bullied into better positions. Voting against fascists is, indeed, the right move, and Joe Biden might be a centrist liberal, but he isn't a fucking fascist.
my first post here is asking what Lemmy is lol I'm just new here
And you are acting in bad faith. You set up a straw man argument so you can bash people for whatever their choice is. If you really meant to have actual discussion, you would. Instead you spout right-wing bullshit about “Biden bad boohoo”
You say he is the genocidal one, while he is actively being pushed to change his ways and taking responsibility while correcting the behavior. Slowly but surely. As opposed to the other side, which literally just wants to drop a nuke on the situation.
When people call you a bad-faith actor, it’s because you’re acting in bad faith.
He literally sent more weapons to Israel yesterday. You're dumb as hell if you think he's going to push back against the mainstream Democratic opinion that is in support of Israel. Only way to convince Democrats to change is to stop voting for them.
Joe Biden is a fascist
I'm not sure you understand what a fascist is. Look at Modi and his party in India for a contemporary example.
I start with Mussolini
You have to separate the defining traits of a fascist regime from the other traits which typically accompany them. Some of them aren't exclusive characteristics of a fascist regime, they're just traits of conservative regimes in general.
no, I dont. a fascist is a fascist.
What? No that's my whole point. Fascism is a specific thing, it isn't just any old authoritarian conservative government.
I know what fascism is. america is fascist. the Democrats and Republicans maintain the fascist state.
Well if you want to use your own definition of fascist, I suppose anything can be fascist if you want it to be.
A question, so I can better understand your definition -- is China fascist?
absolutely. it's clear the states interests supercede all other interests and that they have aligned all institutions with the interest of the state.
I'm using Mussolini's
my bff ty
I'm sure you've heard all the arguments, if you are curious about my thoughts you can dig through my comment history or do some googling and guess at what they could be.
I think your sphincter is squeezing your neck too tight, and it's cutting off the circulation to your brain.
This is an excellent insult and I might re use it.
That's so nice of you to say! I'm quite proud of it. It just came to me out of nowhere for this comment. By all means, use it as if it were your own.
booooo!!!!!
Look who it is! It's my adorable little angry puppy that follows me around to various threads. Half the credit for this line goes to you and your tight little brown starfish.
pats them on their little red head
TERF
TURF
funny how you only post about trans stuff lately but you're not even trans you terf ass. I know you're a terf bc those are the only people who use terf terminology like "genetic men".
Yeah, you caught me, I've been learning about trans issues lately. From what I've gathered, you and Tucker Carlson are both trying very hard to stop trans education. Although it seems he is a bit more skilled at it than you.
please stop learning about trans issues!!!
Oh my. I must be an idiot. I just realized that you almost certainly are an anti-trans troll. There is no way that anyone who was pro-trans would be trying so hard to make them look so comicly awful. If you would like to have a conversation while representing your actual position, I would be open to it. For real, I know that it may be a bit intimidating, but if you spend some time trying to get to know some real live trans people, it may really change your mind.
Sorry it took me so long. I feel like I've never been on the internet vefore or something. You really got me good. Well done, internet stranger, well done. I gotta hand it to you. You really had me believing you for a while. You win this round, you cheeky bastard.
trans people don't need your support!! go away!!
Now that I know what you are doing, I realise that this is probably the most genuine thing you've said in our entire conversation. I feel so played.
Please list the descriptors that show Joe Biden is a fascist, because I'm looking at Umberto Eco's and I see... maybe 1, if you reach a bit: "appeal to the middle class"
You probably fall under at least 4 though.
he's funding a genocide, is the leader of a country that has one of the proportionally largest prison populations in the world that are used as slaves, the U.S. is a police state who spies on its own citizens and regularly just bombs/assassinates activist movements. Any president not acting to dismantle that is fascist.
shocking that you're just learning this now, but the United States are the bad guys
That's not really a good answer though. Those are policies put in place long before Biden became president, but not only that, you haven't proposed an alternative. Your current solution is "Don't vote for Biden" but the outcome is that you either get Biden, a continuation of the status quo at worst, or you get Trump, a continuation of the status quo AT BEST. You can pretend you live in a world where you get a third party candidate, but you don't.
Which leaves you in an unfortinate bind, since that makes you a fascist by your own definition. You are trying to push a solution that would make the situation at best the same, and at worst, much, much worse. As you said:
I assume you would never take an action that would support a fascist. So, how can you argue that in a First-Past-The-Post voting system (and one that defaults to state legislatures if no majority is made), voting for a third party is a viable solution?
I think you can't if you are against fascism. You can post links to antifascist movements, organizations, or steps to take, but the American election system is too fucked to argue against the two big parties unless you are ever the optimist, but I don't think you are if you argue both parties are fascist.
You're forgetting that biden spent almost his entire career in the senate. He's part of the political machine that put those policies into place. Things are only getting worse, which is how assholes like trump rise to start with. If things were going great, then a candidate like trump wouldn't have found a foothold.
If the Dems lose elections or nearly lose elections because 10% of voters choose a leftist third party, the party will move left to capture those voters. If we keep voting them in as-is, they will have no incentive to change. I am an optimist, actually, because I believe in the capacity for change. The results from the primary elections prove to me that this strategy is viable.
You're forgetting that Democrats losing means Republicans winning. And when Republicans win elections, it pushes the entire country to the right. It happened with Reagan, the Tea Party, and Trump.
This approach only spirals us further into far right extremism.
We had Trump after 8 years of Obama...
I don't think I'm following your argument
That's not what fascism is?
Idk why your definition of fascism doesn't include labor camps, war-mongering, and a militarized policing of our own people.
Because that's not fascism. Fascism is hypernationalism and tacit acceptance of political violence to support your goals. Everything you've mentioned is usually there with fascist regimes, but it isn't what makes the regime fascist.
There are many definitions of fascism, but, the United States absolutely fits the definition you just gave.
Not every country has their flags flying constantly. Not every country has a pledge of allegiance to a flag in their schools. And the United States has bombed, imprisoned, and assassinated domestic political threats.
Hmm. I do agree, the pledge of allegiance is really weird and fascistic. And you do have a point on the violence.
I suppose I typically see the violence as needing to be more pervasive, like how Trump supporters send death threats to judges and political opponents and the whole Jan 6 thing. But throughout our history, we have had violent intimidation of oppositional political figures.
I think I wouldn't call the US fascist because it isn't significantly pervasive, but I completely see your point, and I don't begrudge you identifying it as fascist. I certainly see why you think that and I can't disagree beyond semantics.
Fair enough. Personally, I do begrudge you not using the term Fascist because I think if more people used that term to refer to our government, more people would be rightfully angry. It is alarming and scary to me that people are not seeing this country for what it is. Words have power.
I think the people we'd need to convince aren't going to be swayed by the terminology. You need to get the middle rightfully angry, and what we learned from Vietnam is that you need to show them examples of the atrocities.
Use both. I don't see any reason to mince words.
Don't bother feeding into this whoreticulture account, they are pretending to be trans and then acting awful to try to get people to wrongfully think badly of trans people. I'm working on making a script that automatically warns people about their account.
terf alert weee oooo weeee oooo
Umberto didn't invent fascism
Mussolini did
Imagine posting your definition for fascism instead of nothing relevant.