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morrowind@lemmy.ml to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 925 points –
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they're right tho

Yeah. Use Firefox or kiss a free Internet goodbye.

I worry even Firefox is losing its principles on the matter.

Then use a firefox fork that's more in line with your beliefs. It's a pro of open source

chromium is open source too.

But Chrome, the actual application you download (as well as several forks), is closed source.

Agreed. I just wanted to point out that you can have open source with a chromium based browser

But that's not the real issue. The issue is that any Chromium-based browser -- open source or not -- helps Google maintain hegemony over web standards. Even if makers of other Chromium-based browsers try to maintain a fork of the rendering engine, they'll be perpetually playing catch-up removing user-hostile misfeatures because Google controls the upstream branch.

Google still has control over Chromium. Manifest v3 is a Chromium thing, not a Chrome thing. All forks of Chromium will get it and none of the browsers using Chromium as a base has moved to fork and maintain their own version of Chromium.

This means that Google effectively has a monopoly over all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko based, which is a tiny portion of all browsers. Leading to Google deciding how people access the internet. It’s already worrying that Google is the internet for a lot of people, the fact that they can do more or less anything with Chromium means that they can do whatever they want with the web standard.

That should be a major concern for everyone. Chromium needs to be taken away from Google.

all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko

I don't get this part. Are all engines other than those 2, based on Chromium?

Perhaps you are forgetting Ze great Konqueror ?

::: spoiler Because it has always been KHTML. There's a meme for that. Check it out :::

I think Konquerer is no longer actively maintained.

Fun fact (which you may already know) the two most popular browser engines today are based on KHTML)

Yeah I think so.

Their quest for a revenue stream is leading them down a dark path imo.

I mean I get that they need money. I don't really have a solution. I just feel very uneasy about where this is headed.

I'm never giving it up out of principle, but I dunno about the RAM usage. Firefox was above 7GB last I looked. I have RAM to spare though, so I don't really care.

There's a Tab Discarder extension that suspends old tabs so they're stored on the drive rather than ram.