Literally logged in just to downvote your comment. First time I've ever done that so congrats I guess.
Cults are gonna cult
You know prosecuting a criminal for committing crimes isn't a targeted prosecution right? It's just how the criminal justice system always works.
In other words it's just a regular prosecution.
But as you just said cults are gonna cult right? And I know Big Daddy Trump is up there telling you how to think. So keep on culting you beautiful snowflake.
The audacity of a redcap telling anyone else "cults gonna cult." One of the most insane cases of projection I've ever seen.
As a person that is not going to vote for trump, I am the one that is not in a cult. And as a person that knows real estate very well, I fully understand what happened with the new york real estate case and how much bullshit it is. The problem is that you are beholden to your side and you dont see what is happening. I really do want you guys to see what is happening, but you are blinded by ideology, and its literally destorying they country.
Because Trump is being prosecuted for crimes? Your first comment was about targeted prosecutions. Trump is not being targeted, if anything he's been given more leeway than 99% of the criminals in this country.
So, within the context of your first comment I find this comment disingenuous. In other words I think you're full of shit.
Except that he is not being given leeway and is being prosecuted because he is running for president. And that doesnt even get into the different treatment of Jan 6th people vs George Floyd riot people.
EXACTLY! Now do the next check where you see how many were convicted. This is where you dont respond because you will see its less than jan 6th (from all the sources I have seen).
It looks like there weren't many. I think everyone that committed a crime during the BLM protests should be held accountable. And I'm glad that the people that broke into the capitol on Jan 6 are being held accountable. Surely you agree with that?
Thank you, I appreciate that you seem to be reasonable, and I do agree. So we see the government throw the book at the jan 6th people, and the george floyd rioters get much less prosecution even though they did much more damage and there was much higher loss of life. Do you see how they are unequal prosecution?
They were unequal events. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by comparing the two, but in my eyes breaking into the capitol building with the intention of overthrowing the government is a significantly worse crime and I'm glad the people responsible are facing justice.
I'll say it again, all people responsible for a crime should be prosecuted. But stop trying to tell me apples are oranges.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by comparing the two
It's a Red Herring. They don't know what they're talking about so they're fumbling around for any talking point they can find and pretend it's relevant. Don't waste your time.
It's a pretty on-the-nose username, given that they're basically just transcribing Fox News segments. In a saner world, this would be a parody account.
Except that they didnt have the intention of overthrowing the government as can be seen by 98% of the things they were charged and convicted of. And even if you think there was the intent and ability to do so, the vast majority were non-violent and did no signficant crime.
all people responsible for a crime should be convicted. But stop trying to tell me apples are oranges.
Crime is crime, so apples and apples. Why were the crimes of the riots not prosecuted?
I really do want you guys to see what is happening, but you are blinded by ideology, and its literally destorying they country.
"That's why I'm offering nothing but vague statements and empty platitudes to show you what's really happening. Facts and actual arguments would just get in the way."
I directly mentioned the New York case about trumps real estate as something I am very knowledgable about, but sure I am super vague... Have you ever talked to someone in a cult? That is the reason I dont typically go deep.
I directly mentioned the New York case about trumps real estate as something I am very knowledgable about
Cool, and what specifically did you say about the New York case about how it is a problem? Did you share any of that knowledge?
I saw your post and thought "Interesting, maybe there is an angle on the New York case I am unaware of", but you failed to actually say anything other than your displeasure.
Ignore this idiot. He has no critical thinking skills and is so far up his own ass you’ll eventually give up and he’ll just think he won another internet argument.
The entire case is nonsense. To be specific, he didnt do anything wrong and it was exactly what every other serious investor does, and its not fraud, its literally just advocating your position. I can expand on this if you wish, but I dont write gigantic comments because they become unreadable and wastes everyones time.
he didnt do anything wrong
The law seems to say otherwise.
it was exactly what every other serious investor does
"They are all criminals" is not the defense you think it is.
its not fraud
It's literally fraud.
So because a government person said its true you just believe them? And they are all not criminals and its not fraud, its literally perfectly normal.
So because some rando on the internet said it's not true you expect me to just believe them? People on the internet say the Earth is flat too, I'm not just going to take them at their word. You've presented no evidence other than "IS NOT!"
Feel free to watch the Kevin OLeary guy talk about it too, he is a non partisan real estate person not a government official with an agenda, and he can go in a lot more detail than a post does.
I dont know what to tell you, if you have a direct question about the case I can answer that, I have no evidence to give because nothing they did was wrong.
Feel free to watch the Kevin OLeary guy talk about it too, he is a non partisan real estate person
Right, I'm sure some rich asshole (the one that makes other rich assholes say "what an asshole" if you've ever watched shark tank) is completely neutral in his stance that "rich assholes can say whatever they want and it's totally legal."
not a government official with an agenda
Also not a lawyer. Nor an American as far as I'm aware. So I don't know why I would trust him to be an expert on the American Legal system instead of, say, the judge on the case who has thoroughly reviewed all the evidence.
Billionaires are not your friend. You don't have to defend them I would strongly suggest not taking advice from them.
if you have a direct question about the case I can answer that,
Okay: What are the specific laws Trump was found guilty of breaking, why do they not apply in this case, and how were they misinterpreted to get the guilty verdict?
Literally logged in just to downvote your comment. First time I've ever done that so congrats I guess.
Cults are gonna cult
You know prosecuting a criminal for committing crimes isn't a targeted prosecution right? It's just how the criminal justice system always works.
In other words it's just a regular prosecution.
But as you just said cults are gonna cult right? And I know Big Daddy Trump is up there telling you how to think. So keep on culting you beautiful snowflake.
The audacity of a redcap telling anyone else "cults gonna cult." One of the most insane cases of projection I've ever seen.
As a person that is not going to vote for trump, I am the one that is not in a cult. And as a person that knows real estate very well, I fully understand what happened with the new york real estate case and how much bullshit it is. The problem is that you are beholden to your side and you dont see what is happening. I really do want you guys to see what is happening, but you are blinded by ideology, and its literally destorying they country.
Because Trump is being prosecuted for crimes? Your first comment was about targeted prosecutions. Trump is not being targeted, if anything he's been given more leeway than 99% of the criminals in this country.
So, within the context of your first comment I find this comment disingenuous. In other words I think you're full of shit.
Except that he is not being given leeway and is being prosecuted because he is running for president. And that doesnt even get into the different treatment of Jan 6th people vs George Floyd riot people.
Thousands of BLM protestors have been arrested: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/22/fact-check-thousands-black-lives-matter-protesters-arrested-2020/6816074001/. I didn't have to look very hard to find this. It's simple - break the law, get arrested. Keep pushing your agenda though.
EXACTLY! Now do the next check where you see how many were convicted. This is where you dont respond because you will see its less than jan 6th (from all the sources I have seen).
It looks like there weren't many. I think everyone that committed a crime during the BLM protests should be held accountable. And I'm glad that the people that broke into the capitol on Jan 6 are being held accountable. Surely you agree with that?
Thank you, I appreciate that you seem to be reasonable, and I do agree. So we see the government throw the book at the jan 6th people, and the george floyd rioters get much less prosecution even though they did much more damage and there was much higher loss of life. Do you see how they are unequal prosecution?
They were unequal events. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by comparing the two, but in my eyes breaking into the capitol building with the intention of overthrowing the government is a significantly worse crime and I'm glad the people responsible are facing justice.
I'll say it again, all people responsible for a crime should be prosecuted. But stop trying to tell me apples are oranges.
It's a Red Herring. They don't know what they're talking about so they're fumbling around for any talking point they can find and pretend it's relevant. Don't waste your time.
It's a pretty on-the-nose username, given that they're basically just transcribing Fox News segments. In a saner world, this would be a parody account.
Except that they didnt have the intention of overthrowing the government as can be seen by 98% of the things they were charged and convicted of. And even if you think there was the intent and ability to do so, the vast majority were non-violent and did no signficant crime.
Crime is crime, so apples and apples. Why were the crimes of the riots not prosecuted?
"That's why I'm offering nothing but vague statements and empty platitudes to show you what's really happening. Facts and actual arguments would just get in the way."
I directly mentioned the New York case about trumps real estate as something I am very knowledgable about, but sure I am super vague... Have you ever talked to someone in a cult? That is the reason I dont typically go deep.
Cool, and what specifically did you say about the New York case about how it is a problem? Did you share any of that knowledge?
I saw your post and thought "Interesting, maybe there is an angle on the New York case I am unaware of", but you failed to actually say anything other than your displeasure.
Ignore this idiot. He has no critical thinking skills and is so far up his own ass you’ll eventually give up and he’ll just think he won another internet argument.
The entire case is nonsense. To be specific, he didnt do anything wrong and it was exactly what every other serious investor does, and its not fraud, its literally just advocating your position. I can expand on this if you wish, but I dont write gigantic comments because they become unreadable and wastes everyones time.
The law seems to say otherwise.
"They are all criminals" is not the defense you think it is.
It's literally fraud.
So because a government person said its true you just believe them? And they are all not criminals and its not fraud, its literally perfectly normal.
So because some rando on the internet said it's not true you expect me to just believe them? People on the internet say the Earth is flat too, I'm not just going to take them at their word. You've presented no evidence other than "IS NOT!"
Feel free to watch the Kevin OLeary guy talk about it too, he is a non partisan real estate person not a government official with an agenda, and he can go in a lot more detail than a post does.
I dont know what to tell you, if you have a direct question about the case I can answer that, I have no evidence to give because nothing they did was wrong.
Right, I'm sure some rich asshole (the one that makes other rich assholes say "what an asshole" if you've ever watched shark tank) is completely neutral in his stance that "rich assholes can say whatever they want and it's totally legal."
Also not a lawyer. Nor an American as far as I'm aware. So I don't know why I would trust him to be an expert on the American Legal system instead of, say, the judge on the case who has thoroughly reviewed all the evidence.
Billionaires are not your friend. You don't have to defend them I would strongly suggest not taking advice from them.
Okay: What are the specific laws Trump was found guilty of breaking, why do they not apply in this case, and how were they misinterpreted to get the guilty verdict?
Lol