NYPD union sues Adams administration over new ‘zero tolerance’ policy on steroid use among cops

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NYPD union sues Adams administration over new ‘zero tolerance’ policy on steroid use among cops
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New York City’s largest cop union is suing Police Commissioner Edward Caban and Mayor Adams for implementing a new “zero tolerance” policy on NYPD officers using steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs, the Daily News has learned.

In a lawsuit filed in Manhattan Supreme Court on Friday, lawyers for the Police Benevolent Association alleged the previously undisclosed policy flies in the face of a legal agreement the union entered into with the city in 2011.

The 2011 contract prohibited officers from ingesting or possessing any anabolic steroid or other forms of human growth hormones without a medical prescription. However, the old standard didn’t require officers to run any such prescription by their NYPD district surgeon before starting to use it.

The new protocol — which was enacted on Dec. 26, 2023, and described in an internal memo reviewed by The News as a “zero tolerance drug policy” — beefs up the old rule by affirming that officers must “immediately notify their district surgeon” of any steroid prescription they receive and provide “all supporting medical documentation” to the surgeon backing up the need for the drug.

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Honestly if I'm going to get into wrestling matches that decide whether I live or die, I'd probably take steroids.

I wonder what the reaction to this will be. *Whoo. I guess comments must be acab instead of nuanced.

The idea that cops are in danger every day is complete propaganda. I'm a building maintenance worker, and my job is like 10 spots above cop in dangerous/most on the job deaths in North America, nobody throws us a parade and city funeral when we die. My job is more dangerous than a cops, and I manage to do it without killing anyone

remember, the bullet proof vests that police demand for safety were invented by a pizza delivery guy

Who said everyday? Who said that means you need to kill people?

Police officer is not even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs. People who work with cattle have a more dangerous job. They might have to wrangle with an angry animal. Do you think they all take steroids?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/03/02/most-dangerous-jobs-america-database/11264064002/

Do you think taking steroids would help when a 1400 lb cow headbutts you? No. What about when a suspect tackles you? Yes.

Do you think a 1000 pound cow headbutting you is the only reason someone working around large animals might need a lot of strength?

You moved the goalpost. Mine was to survive life and death struggle and where steroids would help. You changed it to need (more likely want). Like what happens when you fail to pick up a bag of feed or move whatever heavy object? You try again. It's not life and death. I'm not convinced you're having a good faith discussion here, so ciao.

You might read that link I posted. Again, working with large animals is far more dangerous than being a cop and it's not all headbutting.

Dude it's not just death rate. It's why and how steroids would reduce that death rate. You have to explain how cow handlers would reduce their death rate by taking steroids. You've not done that. Ok I'm out.

Do you have any evidence that steroids would reduce the death rate of police or is this just a guess on your part?

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Well cops do in fact say that they're in danger every minute of every day. We've heard their reps say it often, which is a false statement.

This statement leads cops to believe they are indeed in danger 24/7 and every one of us is a threat, so they get scared and trigger happy and kill people they don't need to kill. Have you tried approaching a cop recently? They act and look at you like you're a locked up serial killer approaching them, and they're the prison guards. They're convinced we're all out to kill him.

I saw a funny YouTube video of a guy flirting with a cute female cop, having a nice interaction. Then another cruiser pulls up, saying it looked like the citizen was aggressive and trying to get violent with the female officer. That's how cops are. Scared, paranoid, unreasonable...

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Are you saying the general public should be juicing so we can survive police attacks?

Time to get anabolic steroids to the college campuses, stat.

Let's just put it in the water supply. It will make doomsday scenarios more interesting

The general public don't usually carry firearms. Police do. Losing a wrestling match comes with the potential threat of your own gun being taken and used against you. That means losing said wrestling match could mean death. This is why people who conceal carry are the most likely to stay the fuck away from trouble like this. Police don't have that luxury.

They actually do have the luxury of standing back. Ask the officers at Uvalde. Ask the Supreme Court.

De-escalation could also help. But, no, let's arm these undertrained, ignorant, and stupid...

So your saying cops shouldn't carry guns?

No, and I can't possibly imagine what in my message made you think that. I'm more than happy to live in a country where the only people carrying guns are cops.

Because you said cops wrestling people could lose their guns and get killed so if cops "have" to wrestle people they probably shouldn't carry guns because then they can't lose them while attacking people

Not carrying a gun comes with it's own set of even greater issues.

what drugs do you recommend for pissing your pants and hiding?

EDIT: found it – need to send shipments of tamsulosin to Uvalde …

Do you agree that those who are tasked with upholding the law should be allowed to violate that same law with impunity?

I understand your comment but I don't see how it could overcome the above question in regard to police officers.

There was plenty of nuanced replies to you that you ignored entirely, you knob

Being a cop isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs.

Cops are cowards cosplaying as heros.

The question is not the most dangerous job. The question is how does taking steroids change that. Steroids won't help an electrician when 50 MV go through him.

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