When does this raise questions of precedent? Is everyone entitled to 10 violations of a gag order in NYC now?
Yes, if they can pay the $10,000 fine.
The judge said everyone gets warnings and fines before jail time. If he could, he'd issue a large fine, but he can't because state law caps the fine at $1,000 per violation. The judge acknowledged that a $10,000 fine for a multi-millionaire isn't even a punishment, but immediately jailing someone because they can easily afford the fine seemed wrong. Trump violated the gag order 10 times before being officially told to stop, so the judge is lumping them all into a "first" violation. He said the "second" violation absolutely will be punished with jail time. We'll see.
Bullshit fixed-value fines are only a deterrent for poors.
As is intended
Fines not tied to income are a joke
IMO It's not always that simple. Yes some countries do this but it can also backfire (and has). Some examples:
unfairly targeting rich people in order to help the town budget
previous annual incomes may be vastly different from current monthly wages (furloughed etc.)
punishment being spun as a political tool similar to trump's martyrs
Wow first bullet is a fascinating point, seems obvious now. Great insight!
...but immediately jailing someone because they can easily afford the fine seemed wrong.
No it doesn't, not even a little bit! Restrictions on their time are the only things rich people understand; they should be jailed instead of fined early and often.
And then they get the case cancelled because it's clearly bias against them that they don't get to just pay the same fee as anyone else as a first warning.
Lol...that's not how it works. You don't get a case cancelled for the judge holding someone in contempt...
You do if it's Trump and he uses it to question the judge's neutrality.
How long do you think before they replace the judge and get things started again? If you believe it won't be long enough to get him elected then I've got a bridge to sell you.
This is the second time in this criminal trial (all previous ones have been civil trials), and this me the judge stated that fines are clearly not working and that jail time could be necessary if it keeps happening.
Yes I knew we'll all believe it when it happens, but it is different now that he's in criminal court and the maximum fine has been dealt both for the first and second infringement.
Only if you can afford $10k/hr
Sounds like a small fraction of what Stormy should’ve charged
When does this raise questions of precedent? Is everyone entitled to 10 violations of a gag order in NYC now?
Yes, if they can pay the $10,000 fine.
The judge said everyone gets warnings and fines before jail time. If he could, he'd issue a large fine, but he can't because state law caps the fine at $1,000 per violation. The judge acknowledged that a $10,000 fine for a multi-millionaire isn't even a punishment, but immediately jailing someone because they can easily afford the fine seemed wrong. Trump violated the gag order 10 times before being officially told to stop, so the judge is lumping them all into a "first" violation. He said the "second" violation absolutely will be punished with jail time. We'll see.
Bullshit fixed-value fines are only a deterrent for poors.
As is intended
Fines not tied to income are a joke
IMO It's not always that simple. Yes some countries do this but it can also backfire (and has). Some examples:
unfairly targeting rich people in order to help the town budget
previous annual incomes may be vastly different from current monthly wages (furloughed etc.)
punishment being spun as a political tool similar to trump's martyrs
Wow first bullet is a fascinating point, seems obvious now. Great insight!
No it doesn't, not even a little bit! Restrictions on their time are the only things rich people understand; they should be jailed instead of fined early and often.
And then they get the case cancelled because it's clearly bias against them that they don't get to just pay the same fee as anyone else as a first warning.
Lol...that's not how it works. You don't get a case cancelled for the judge holding someone in contempt...
You do if it's Trump and he uses it to question the judge's neutrality.
How long do you think before they replace the judge and get things started again? If you believe it won't be long enough to get him elected then I've got a bridge to sell you.
This is the second time in this criminal trial (all previous ones have been civil trials), and this me the judge stated that fines are clearly not working and that jail time could be necessary if it keeps happening.
Yes I knew we'll all believe it when it happens, but it is different now that he's in criminal court and the maximum fine has been dealt both for the first and second infringement.
Only if you can afford $10k/hr
Sounds like a small fraction of what Stormy should’ve charged