Bots and lack of mods on different timezones most likely.
Would probably make sense to have an account age requirement and comment requirement before posting somehow.
account age requirement and comment requirement before posting
This can also be very unwelcoming to new users though. Reddit often feels like a closed place because so many subs have karma requirements. I'd prefer we didn't go there.
We should rather stop allowing sign ups without an application. The captchas are not good enough.
We should rather stop allowing sign ups without an application. The captchas are not good enough.
That's near impossible to enforce, due to the federated nature. Server admins could whitelist which instances they trust, but I don't think that'll do much good from a community point of view.
Perhaps a sticky to find better moderator/timezone coverage could help. (And for that matter, I wouldn't mind stricter moderation on post relevance - not all news about tech companies or events that just happen to take place online is tech news, imho)
near impossible to enforce, due to the federated nature. Server admins could whitelist
What if you could automatically federate with any instance requiring an application, but anything else you would need to whitelist? Maybe that could work.
I'm no federation expert, but I think if you could convince your own instance admin, or the one hosting this community (lemmy.world), to do so, you'd be good. But that would potentially affect a lot more users than just the ones in this community, so they might take some effort.
Also, I'm not aware of any tools that could automate this for you.
I know there isn't anything like this now, I'm basically just theorycrafting how it should/could function :)
If you think that's unwelcoming, applications are even more so. Most people don't want to fill out an essay just to be allowed to participate.
If I had to fill out an application, I wouldn't be here, and I'm sure a lot of others wouldn't be either.
That's not to say that better methods shouldn't be implemented though.
An application doesn't have to be an essay. Feddit.dk has an application that literally just requires a sentence or two. It's really not a big barrier to entry.
For that matter - I'm okay with filtering out people who think it's too much effort. Quality over quantity.
Exactly my thoughts as well :)
I agree here. Filling out an application would have easily kept me out. Many may see that as a good thing though :)
Then you don't get any new people at all. (Or very few)
This can also be very unwelcoming to new users though.
For like the first week of posting...
Then it's never an issue again.
But it's hard for trolls and bots to build that up for every account.
Theres been more than a few that just keep making new accounts on small instances the second they're banned
It is an issue if you change instance, which you may do more often than creating new accounts on traditional social media. And again, I just find it kind of unwelcoming.
Maybe automatically creating a report to just check the post for spam when a new user posts would be nice? Then a mod can check it out but it's not removed automatically or blocked.
It is an issue if you change instance
Again, only for like a week...
There's no valid reason to keep constantly churning accounts.
There is if you wish to change instance, for example if your admins do something you don't like. That's a perfectly valid reason.
We can disagree, it's okay. You don't have to downvote just because you disagree.
I think this would be great to limit this. I really don't understand people wanting to comment right away. I just lurked for like a month to get a feel before I decided to participate.
I don't know. Only reason I create an account is to comment and post. Why otherwise have one?
to subscribe and get a curated list of what you want to look at. I can't imagine lurking without subscriptions to what im interested in.
A brand new account doesn't necessarily mean the user hasn't been lurking for a while. I lurked on Reddit without an account for years before creating an account there, and during the Reddit drama last year, I lurked here and a few other places, but didn't create an account anywhere until I actually wanted to participate.
I bet you will make one a day sooner if you know you won't be able to post for day.
I guess a timezone difference too since I never see any ads.
Bots and lack of mods on different timezones most likely.
Would probably make sense to have an account age requirement and comment requirement before posting somehow.
This can also be very unwelcoming to new users though. Reddit often feels like a closed place because so many subs have karma requirements. I'd prefer we didn't go there.
We should rather stop allowing sign ups without an application. The captchas are not good enough.
That's near impossible to enforce, due to the federated nature. Server admins could whitelist which instances they trust, but I don't think that'll do much good from a community point of view.
Perhaps a sticky to find better moderator/timezone coverage could help. (And for that matter, I wouldn't mind stricter moderation on post relevance - not all news about tech companies or events that just happen to take place online is tech news, imho)
What if you could automatically federate with any instance requiring an application, but anything else you would need to whitelist? Maybe that could work.
I'm no federation expert, but I think if you could convince your own instance admin, or the one hosting this community (lemmy.world), to do so, you'd be good. But that would potentially affect a lot more users than just the ones in this community, so they might take some effort.
Also, I'm not aware of any tools that could automate this for you.
I know there isn't anything like this now, I'm basically just theorycrafting how it should/could function :)
If you think that's unwelcoming, applications are even more so. Most people don't want to fill out an essay just to be allowed to participate.
If I had to fill out an application, I wouldn't be here, and I'm sure a lot of others wouldn't be either.
That's not to say that better methods shouldn't be implemented though.
An application doesn't have to be an essay. Feddit.dk has an application that literally just requires a sentence or two. It's really not a big barrier to entry.
For that matter - I'm okay with filtering out people who think it's too much effort. Quality over quantity.
Exactly my thoughts as well :)
I agree here. Filling out an application would have easily kept me out. Many may see that as a good thing though :)
Then you don't get any new people at all. (Or very few)
For like the first week of posting...
Then it's never an issue again.
But it's hard for trolls and bots to build that up for every account.
Theres been more than a few that just keep making new accounts on small instances the second they're banned
It is an issue if you change instance, which you may do more often than creating new accounts on traditional social media. And again, I just find it kind of unwelcoming.
Maybe automatically creating a report to just check the post for spam when a new user posts would be nice? Then a mod can check it out but it's not removed automatically or blocked.
Again, only for like a week...
There's no valid reason to keep constantly churning accounts.
There is if you wish to change instance, for example if your admins do something you don't like. That's a perfectly valid reason.
We can disagree, it's okay. You don't have to downvote just because you disagree.
I think this would be great to limit this. I really don't understand people wanting to comment right away. I just lurked for like a month to get a feel before I decided to participate.
I don't know. Only reason I create an account is to comment and post. Why otherwise have one?
to subscribe and get a curated list of what you want to look at. I can't imagine lurking without subscriptions to what im interested in.
A brand new account doesn't necessarily mean the user hasn't been lurking for a while. I lurked on Reddit without an account for years before creating an account there, and during the Reddit drama last year, I lurked here and a few other places, but didn't create an account anywhere until I actually wanted to participate.
I bet you will make one a day sooner if you know you won't be able to post for day.
I guess a timezone difference too since I never see any ads.