‘Let yourself be monitored’: EU governments to agree on Chat Control with user “consent” [updated]

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This will probably just make peer to peer messaging apps more popular.

Briar is pretty cool if you're on Android.

What's the advantage over signal?

If you have Internet it uses tor and there's no main server to rely on.

If there's no Internet it can use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi locally.

Well I have to admit, those are some pretty snazzy tricks...

Using tor on a per app basis is pretty cool, I wonder what the security implications are for that? If some, but not all of your traffic is going through tor, I wonder if it's easier to disentangle somehow... Probably it's still secure though.

Very cool and impressive, but I'd rather be able to share arbitrary files.

And looks like you can only send images in DMs, but not in groups/forums.

I am just sad that the desktop version is not as full-featured. The website says no Tor bridges, which here means no Tor connectivity at all. And it is weird that the mailbox is primarily for phones, even though phones are not supposed to be working permanently on a charger - they do have a cli one at least so you's probably be able to use something like a Raspberry instead, for now only buildable from source but hope it develops. But yea, very cool model! Although I would say for everyday less sensitive communication I would choose XMPP or Matrix instead.

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I don't think that most people will care

99 percent of people won't care, won't understand, or just be part of the mindset of why be scared if we have nothing to hide.

Only us techs will care

Facts, if I could donate a star or gold I would

I just don't get it why mainsteam media almost never reports about this.

Because it's not been free press for a long time.

Remember when journalism was supposed to be outrageous? That's not a mark of quality, that's a rule. If it's not outrageous, then it's most likely not journalism.

It also never reports on wars outside of the agreed upon narrative. There's time and narrative for everything. That doesn't happen with free press. There may not be open censorship and coercion, but not seeing something is different from knowing it doesn't exist.

Less likely peer-to-peer, more likely selfhostable.

Just in time for me to finally have completed my Matrix setup a few days ago.

I prefer XMPP, which is lighter, but I have a Matrix server too and get why you'd prefer it.

Well, ones that aren't based on a service operating in the EU, at any rate.

this could finally be a good "reason" to convice some people near me to get into meshtastic

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