LIVE UPDATES: TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS IN HUSH-MONEY CASE
nytimes.com
edit: I have changed my title to match the new NYTimes headline. Sorry about the all caps, I guess they are really excited about this lol
Also shoutout to @SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone who shared a gift article link in the comments. I hope you don't mind but I kinda stole it and updated the post
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Do you guys think this matters to his voters/supporters?
This is going to give a lot of GOP Senators a fig leaf.
If someone puts a motion in Congress to make it illegal for him to run, a lot of them will vote for it.
I absolutely do not want a ban on felons running for President. In some countries, that is used as a political tool to eliminate political opponents. Putin used that against Navalny.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42479909
Not to mention, Trump won't even be the first person in the USA who could be running for president from jail.
edit: the first from a major party though, sorry Debs
His felonies are related to campaing financing, which could be used to narrow down without banning all felons. While I oppose anyone losing the right to vote, I don't oppose people who are connvicted of treason, insurrection, or felonies related to campaign finance or abuse of elected positions being banned since they have been proven to have undermined democracy.
I get allowing former felons to run for office - they served time that society said was their punishment. They are done with it.
But a law that bans a felon that has not completed their punishment is a different story.
All the more reason for the Republicans to support it, TBH.
We've banned them from voting for decades.
Also, the USA isn't Russia and Biden isn't Putin.
Not running, though. Much harder to use that to eliminate a political opponent.
No. But I'd also like to keep it that way.
Then keep Donald out.
This was not the first time Trump has had a run in with the law. When he was building Trump Tower he employed Polish immigrants and treated them so badly that they won a million dollar settlement against him
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-undocumented-polish-workers-tower-paid-settlement-millions-bonwit-teller-building-new-york-a8080336.html
How do you propose such a bill be advanced through the GOP controlled house?
bad law. I'd much rather a law where the candidate has to describe the nature of their past convictions in a written statement submitted with their filing paperwork to run and explain why each one doesn't affect their ability to run the country.
Aka reflecting on one's crimes.
Except assholes like trump see themselves as victims of a witch-hunt and he would write that out , sorry: he will have a lawyer write that out for every one of them. I doubt he has the attention span for it.
It'll probably be good for his campaign somehow
He'll be able to work some sort of grift off of it for sure but I feel like this definitely gives some Republicans an "out."
Now they just have to take it.
They didn’t take Jan 6
It gives us something new to troll those miserable asshats over. "Interesting argument, but have you considered the fact that your candidate is a convicted felon?"
Before all this started, people did make claims that they wouldn't vote for him if he was convicted.
But then they also said they wouldn't vote for him even if Nikki Haley conceded.
So we'll see, I guess. But I'm not optimistic.
Some, but they'll never tell the others.
Ladies you don't have to tell your husband you voted for Biden.
Yes: To them this demonstrates that the justice system is corrupt and they think only Trump can fix it.
They will believe this even though Trump isn't running for any office in New York 🤣
It will most matter for undecided voters who required a guilty verdict to decide, althoigh I'm not sure that is a large number in swing states.
It won't matter for his base that already ignore reality.
It's reductive to think of his supporters as a single bloq.
It will certainly matter to at least some of them.