All that hand wringing over what kind of protest should be ok, you guys are exhausting. The kind of protest doesn't make a difference at all. A lot of people will say it's unacceptable no matter what. I'll even admit sometimes a protest misses the mark, but I'm still glad they did it.
The kids are alright
My only opinion is that if the protest dosen't hurt the owner class, then it's not going to do anything anyway.
Any protest is better than complaining or arguing on the internet. I'll let the tactics to the actual people doing their actions. Nothing but encouragement from me 👍
The protest isn't intended to hurt the owner class. The protest is intended to draw attention to the issue. We're talking about it therefore it's an effective form of protest.
Without protests like this we go about our lives worrying about bills and ignore the literal apocalyptic catastrophe we're nose-diving into.
How would your reaction have been if it wasn't a cultural artifact creating by Europeans? Say they did it at Native American site or Aboriginal?
it wasn't, though.
Perhaps if you could name the site, the protestes, the cause and the method we could go "Yeah that would be much/slightly better/worse" but I don't think we'd get much more out of it than that.
Don't waste energy categorizing right or wrong ways to protest. All this is a distraction from the actual issues.
Agreed. The more we argue about the "how" of the protests, the more we're distracted from what they're actually protesting about. The most effective way of stopping people complaining about something isn't to shut them up, but to fix the thing.
If someone's poor and can't afford to buy food, no amount of fines or jail time will prevent them from going back to stealing food the second they get out because - guess what - they're still fucking poor. There's a food bank near where I lived a while ago that notoriously had long lines. Slowly shuffling forward in a queue that screams "I'm poor" must be uncomfortable, but they're still not stealing food while they have an alternative.
If you want people to stop vandalising shit in their outrage over exploitation and greed, fucking do something about the exploitation and greed. I'm sure those people could have thought of more pleasant ways to spend their time than creating their cornflour pigment, driving out there and getting arrested to make a point without leaving lasting damage.
Don't tell me what to do.
I wasn't really, only in a rhetorical sense. You're kinda being a dick about it, tho. Are you on a mission to be the most downvoted commenter or something? Don't let me get in your way.
Pretty sure this guy just runs around Lemmy trying to stir things up. I had a run-in with him recently that was needless contentious and I'm not surprised to see him doing the same thing here
That's what I thought, yeah. Some people...
If it's as non-destructive as the rest of their protests, then I'd have nothing against it
As a european, i dont give a shit. As a german, they could have blown up the brandenburg gate for all i care
It depends. I think that protest goes to far, if it really damages a building. Since this didn't its all right.
Oh, poor building, poor monuments, poor rocks. If only we have any way to declare our oposition againt bilionaires literally destroying the whole ecosystems, destroying people lives and health. But for fucking sake, the poor, orange painted monument.
those damn protesters crossed uncrossable line. I will not support them anymore!
I sure hope no buildings are damaged as society collapses from climate change strain
Any protest that doesn't physically damage buildings owned by the fossil fuel industry aren't going far enough
This comment is advocating for property damage
Just Stop Oil said the paint was made of cornstarch and would dissolve in the rain.
Merriman said experts cleaned the orange powder from the stones because they were concerned about how it might react to water.
Might.
So because it could in the future maybe possibly damage it in some unspecified amount, they cleaned it off to be super sure there will be no damage.
So what fucking damage that really happened in the real world are you talking about?
I never talked about damage at Stonehege. I said, that damaging buildings how's to far. They didn't damage Stonehenge so its fine.
Gotcha. Given how the post we're replying to is about Stonehenge, I guess I assumed that's what you're talking about
All that hand wringing over what kind of protest should be ok, you guys are exhausting. The kind of protest doesn't make a difference at all. A lot of people will say it's unacceptable no matter what. I'll even admit sometimes a protest misses the mark, but I'm still glad they did it.
The kids are alright
My only opinion is that if the protest dosen't hurt the owner class, then it's not going to do anything anyway.
Any protest is better than complaining or arguing on the internet. I'll let the tactics to the actual people doing their actions. Nothing but encouragement from me 👍
The protest isn't intended to hurt the owner class. The protest is intended to draw attention to the issue. We're talking about it therefore it's an effective form of protest.
Without protests like this we go about our lives worrying about bills and ignore the literal apocalyptic catastrophe we're nose-diving into.
How would your reaction have been if it wasn't a cultural artifact creating by Europeans? Say they did it at Native American site or Aboriginal?
it wasn't, though.
Perhaps if you could name the site, the protestes, the cause and the method we could go "Yeah that would be much/slightly better/worse" but I don't think we'd get much more out of it than that.
Don't waste energy categorizing right or wrong ways to protest. All this is a distraction from the actual issues.
Agreed. The more we argue about the "how" of the protests, the more we're distracted from what they're actually protesting about. The most effective way of stopping people complaining about something isn't to shut them up, but to fix the thing.
If someone's poor and can't afford to buy food, no amount of fines or jail time will prevent them from going back to stealing food the second they get out because - guess what - they're still fucking poor. There's a food bank near where I lived a while ago that notoriously had long lines. Slowly shuffling forward in a queue that screams "I'm poor" must be uncomfortable, but they're still not stealing food while they have an alternative.
If you want people to stop vandalising shit in their outrage over exploitation and greed, fucking do something about the exploitation and greed. I'm sure those people could have thought of more pleasant ways to spend their time than creating their cornflour pigment, driving out there and getting arrested to make a point without leaving lasting damage.
Don't tell me what to do.
I wasn't really, only in a rhetorical sense. You're kinda being a dick about it, tho. Are you on a mission to be the most downvoted commenter or something? Don't let me get in your way.
Pretty sure this guy just runs around Lemmy trying to stir things up. I had a run-in with him recently that was needless contentious and I'm not surprised to see him doing the same thing here
That's what I thought, yeah. Some people...
If it's as non-destructive as the rest of their protests, then I'd have nothing against it
I will leave this here.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/12/11/370125769/greenpeace-apologizes-for-stunt-at-perus-sacred-nazca-lines
Gotcha. So now we know the answer.
As a european, i dont give a shit. As a german, they could have blown up the brandenburg gate for all i care
It depends. I think that protest goes to far, if it really damages a building. Since this didn't its all right.
Oh, poor building, poor monuments, poor rocks. If only we have any way to declare our oposition againt bilionaires literally destroying the whole ecosystems, destroying people lives and health. But for fucking sake, the poor, orange painted monument. those damn protesters crossed uncrossable line. I will not support them anymore!
I sure hope no buildings are damaged as society collapses from climate change strain
Any protest that doesn't physically damage buildings owned by the fossil fuel industry aren't going far enough
This comment is advocating for property damage
Might.
So because it could in the future maybe possibly damage it in some unspecified amount, they cleaned it off to be super sure there will be no damage.
So what fucking damage that really happened in the real world are you talking about?
I never talked about damage at Stonehege. I said, that damaging buildings how's to far. They didn't damage Stonehenge so its fine.
Gotcha. Given how the post we're replying to is about Stonehenge, I guess I assumed that's what you're talking about