Biden says he 'screwed up' debate but vows to stay in election

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Biden says he 'screwed up' debate but vows to stay in race
bbc.com

“I'm the nominee of the Democratic Party. No one's pushing me out. I'm not leaving," he said in a call to the broader campaign

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I'm voting against the bad man, but if you ever had any shred of belief that Dems respect your opinion, either this should kill it or your mind can't be changed.

I don't think an alternate candidate this late in the race is a good idea, and I wonder why you do?

If biden dropped out now, and any of the other prospective candidates who've been mentioned recently (except kamala), I'd be way more energized and excited about this election. Way more. And I'm not the only one either.

Both biden and trump should not be our candidates for president.

Legally, at this point, Kamala is the only person who can take over Joe's election war chest.

And remember, laws still apply to democrats, so we're kind of fucked.

Most countries don't have 13 year election cycles. The UK just had an election in under two months. What makes you think it's late? Americans, man.

To be more serious though, if one candidate campaigns for 13 months and another 2 months. I would believe the one campaigning for longer has an advantage.

You might be surprised, in the UK Jeremy Corbyn joined pretty late and campaigned as independent in his area and won, the first time that constituency has voted for something other than Labour in decades. It just takes a good new candidate to get people interested.

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Yo, how's the queen.

surprisingly the prime minister and the Queen both have less power than the American President who is now immune from prosecution. you should give more advice about how to run a democracy

At least we have one. Kiss the ring, bitch.

weird thing to be proud of, very patriotic

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It's been a week since the debate. If Biden was really as fine as everyone claims, it should have been a simple thing for him to make a public appearance and show everyone that he's fine. Instead, it's been a week of private meetings and "bro, we swear, bro, he's fine, it was just one bad debate, bro, c'mon". Afaik, the only public speaking he's done since was a radio show where he went on and said he was proud to have been the first black woman to serve in the white house or something.

So, for my part, my singular concern is this: is Biden up to the task of being on the campaign trail to stop Trump from winning? So far, it's looking like no. It's looking like we're going to get a bunch of surrogate speakers and excuses why Biden couldn't be here or there. I just don't want Trump to win, and I don't think that running a campaign with a guy who's seemingly too frail to be a Wal-Mart greeter is going to be the secret sauce.

He had a speech in NC that was very convincing since the debate, go watch it.

Was that the "when you get knocked down" speech? I'll check it out.

Dude was obviously sick, but yeah I'm sure you'd go on a speaking tour feeling under the weather at 82... 🙄

I can buy that he was sick, but I wish the democrats had done something to temper expectations besides load Biden full of robotussin and let fate take him.

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Dems showed us in 2016 when they screwed Bernie and set the country on course for this madness. It completely comes down to Hillary and the establishment back in 2016, and keeping forever establishment candidates in isn't going to win anyone over.

They screwed us hard because she thought it was her turn, and now Biden is making the same error.

Republicans didn't like Trump at first either but they saw how popular he was and didn't undermine their supporters atleast...

This is a very naive take, but my hope is that democrat keep getting big wins for the next couple decades, forcing Republican Party to parish and us being treated to new party/s on the main spotlight that are ACTUALLY LEFT

Edit: I am saying that my take is naive. I should have said something like “I’m naively hopeful” or something along those lines

This is the naive take. Been voting since '08, almost exclusively Democrat. The centrist/corporatist democrats who dominate the party really get off on running against fascists, because it's like being in a political fast food diet. You don't have to really prepare or deliver complex policy goals, you don't have to piss off your corporate donors, you just stand next to the fascists and say "we're not them; you don't want fascists running the country, do you?!" Problem being that fear only gets you so far before people stop responding to it, the fascists win an election, people get scared again, and the democrats get another big shot of engagement and fundraising basically for free.

The centrist democrats don't want to move left and frequently work to shut down actual left politicians in and outside the party. They don't want to stop fascism because then they have to actually work and compete instead of let fear do the work for them

I thought Trump was going to force the GOP to parish. His success has made me question so much. He didn't even split the GOP.

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