Is jellyfish vegan?

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They don’t have a brain really and kinda just float there. Do they even feel pain?

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Jellyfish eat animals and animal byproducts, so no, they are not vegan.

Jokes aside, often vegans follow dietary restrictions for reasons other than an ethical or moral belief against causing pain. Many vegans don't even eat honey, so I imagine jellyfish is pretty safely in non-vegan territory.

Are carnivores plants vegan? Genuinely curious, never looked into it.

Many fertilizers are made from animal products. Are veggies grown with those fertilizers vegan?

Nothing is 100% vegan. Animals have existed on this planet for hundreds of millions of years, and they are a part of its composition. Soil is just fully decomposed plants and animals. No matter how vegan you want to be, you can't escape eating something that has fed on animal parts directly or indirectly.

My point being that many fertilizers are a product of factory farming. Something that vegans are very much against.

I have heard there are vegans who won't eat figs since there's a decent chance of a dead wasp in a fig due to how fig wasps procreate.

Figs you buy in stores don’t have dead wasps in them. But yes, there varieties of figs that do and there aren’t vegan.

If no, what about coprophagic mushrooms (I'm not aware of any fungi that are both edible and coprophagic and also produce fruiting bodies aka mushrooms big enough to possibly harvest)?

Depends what you consider edible. Some varieties of psilocybe grow directly on poop.

Hm, I might have chosen the wrong adjective there. I meant fungi that decompose corpses

Plants aren't sentient, so yes.

they feel pain, communicate, reproduce, move around, why are plants any different than animals? honest question

I thought your first sentence was serious at first, since it genuinely makes sense to me. If growing a jellyfish causes animal suffering, I can see why a vegan may reject to eat it for ethical reasons.

Here's a good video on why vegans don't eat honey. Beekeeping is really just another form of factory farming.

Can't agree fully.

My mother has a hive in the garden. The bees pollinate our garden, live lives as nice as bee's lives can be and, at the end of the year, we take some of their honey and replace it with sugar, which the bees don't care about.

It's a win-win, nobody is hurt, nobody is taken advatage of.

Two things.

1 - It's the backyard chicken problem. Yes your mom doesn't harm them, but when producing at scale people care less about not harming them

2 - Replacing their honey with sugar is not good because it lacks the vitamins and nutrients that honey has. It's very possible that you don't take all the honey so they are never harmed by the actions, but when farming at scale people will absolutely push the limit.

My point is, though, that farming doesn't necessarily have to be done at scale, and when done right, nobody suffers

I agree with your point that it’s possible but not applicable to 99.9% of people