honestly I still cant figure out how to configure a network interface properly without using the old control panel.
You literally can't.
There's a ton of stuff you can't do with the new garbage settings.
Let's not even mention that on an operating system called "Windows" you can only have one "window" of settings open. And opening new settings will just replace where you just where. Which is extremely rage inducing.
opening new settings will just replace where you just where
I don't use windows super often anymore, so I don't really have that usecase, but man. Just imagining it makes me annoyed and angry
You probably should never use a Mac then.
yup. The couple of times I had to use one, the bad UX absolutely annoyed the hell out of me
I honestly don't understand why macs are so popular in IT. Flexibility and configurability are not the words that can be used to describe their system.
Then you don't know what you're talking about.
Understood, thank you for your thorough contribution.
I'm not here to educate you on POSIX superiority.
Understood, thank you for your thorough contribution.
It is even funnier the second time.
no u
Got reminded yesterday when trying to find a way to clear and apps cached information.
Windows was a simple path, but osx needed 5 steps to find where osx decided to put it.
I'm pretty positive on mac OS, as an OS it's technically quite good, but their preferences app has always been atrocious almost entirely for this reason, I want to have two preferences windows open to different pages please..
I hear you. I have always been a power user so I was pretty shocked when you could not open two file managers at once in OSX.
The thing about Apple devices is they work great, as long as you do it they way they want.
You can have multiple finder windows in OSX, thats perfectly normal, but you cant have the network settings open next to the printer settings.
Well that was not the case with the last time I used OSX. You click on finder and it would not open a second window. This is not how Windows or Gnome/Kwin work.
you have been able to right click (or i guess two finger click for apple people) and open a second window forever.
Yeah, like I was saying. You have to do it the way they want rather than just click on it like every other GUI.
One thing I really did like was the use of the drop down menu. I really appreciate all programs using the same basic interface.
I absolutely hated all the Microsoft Ribbon bar nonsense. They have reinvented it so many times you never know where to find anything.
As admin and tech support, I use the control panel constantly. I use the settings app... for display configuration, I guess?
It's not you. There are many things you simply cannot do in the settings app.
And if you can do it, it's complicated and convoluted. I miss Win32 settings panels, everything was so well organized and simple to manage.
Yeah the new interface has restrictions it doesn’t tell you about until you try to apply new settings.
You can now reach the network connections folder, using an option on the network status page. It's something like advanced network options. Still all the classic stuff, but avoids "control panel." I'm going to guess links like that are not going to be removed.
If they just outright remove all of that, you really will need to learn how to do everything in powershell.
The goal is to move you to powershell
Are you on windows 10 or 11?
Mostly 11 now. I honestly prefer it to 10 now, but that's with quite about of decrapification done to remove all of Microsoft's bullshit.
At home I'm mostly using Ubuntu, but it's basically covering firefox as all of my self-hosted stuff runs in thevbrowser and I don't game much.
Hmm, then I'm a bit confused, since my experience with Windows 11 settings app has been good enough to not need to go into the control panel for setting up basic networking, unlike with Windows 10's setting app.
Thus why im moving to 11. Lots of the PCs I work with are still 10 though.
honestly I still cant figure out how to configure a network interface properly without using the old control panel.
You literally can't.
There's a ton of stuff you can't do with the new garbage settings.
Let's not even mention that on an operating system called "Windows" you can only have one "window" of settings open. And opening new settings will just replace where you just where. Which is extremely rage inducing.
I don't use windows super often anymore, so I don't really have that usecase, but man. Just imagining it makes me annoyed and angry
You probably should never use a Mac then.
yup. The couple of times I had to use one, the bad UX absolutely annoyed the hell out of me
I honestly don't understand why macs are so popular in IT. Flexibility and configurability are not the words that can be used to describe their system.
Then you don't know what you're talking about.
Understood, thank you for your thorough contribution.
I'm not here to educate you on POSIX superiority.
Understood, thank you for your thorough contribution.
It is even funnier the second time.
no u
Got reminded yesterday when trying to find a way to clear and apps cached information.
Windows was a simple path, but osx needed 5 steps to find where osx decided to put it.
I'm pretty positive on mac OS, as an OS it's technically quite good, but their preferences app has always been atrocious almost entirely for this reason, I want to have two preferences windows open to different pages please..
I hear you. I have always been a power user so I was pretty shocked when you could not open two file managers at once in OSX.
The thing about Apple devices is they work great, as long as you do it they way they want.
You can have multiple finder windows in OSX, thats perfectly normal, but you cant have the network settings open next to the printer settings.
Well that was not the case with the last time I used OSX. You click on finder and it would not open a second window. This is not how Windows or Gnome/Kwin work.
you have been able to right click (or i guess two finger click for apple people) and open a second window forever.
Yeah, like I was saying. You have to do it the way they want rather than just click on it like every other GUI.
One thing I really did like was the use of the drop down menu. I really appreciate all programs using the same basic interface.
I absolutely hated all the Microsoft Ribbon bar nonsense. They have reinvented it so many times you never know where to find anything.
As admin and tech support, I use the control panel constantly. I use the settings app... for display configuration, I guess?
It's not you. There are many things you simply cannot do in the settings app.
And if you can do it, it's complicated and convoluted. I miss Win32 settings panels, everything was so well organized and simple to manage.
Yeah the new interface has restrictions it doesn’t tell you about until you try to apply new settings.
You can now reach the network connections folder, using an option on the network status page. It's something like advanced network options. Still all the classic stuff, but avoids "control panel." I'm going to guess links like that are not going to be removed.
If they just outright remove all of that, you really will need to learn how to do everything in powershell.
The goal is to move you to powershell
Are you on windows 10 or 11?
Mostly 11 now. I honestly prefer it to 10 now, but that's with quite about of decrapification done to remove all of Microsoft's bullshit.
At home I'm mostly using Ubuntu, but it's basically covering firefox as all of my self-hosted stuff runs in thevbrowser and I don't game much.
Hmm, then I'm a bit confused, since my experience with Windows 11 settings app has been good enough to not need to go into the control panel for setting up basic networking, unlike with Windows 10's setting app.
Thus why im moving to 11. Lots of the PCs I work with are still 10 though.