Funny that just last week an American was shot in the head, executed by Hamas, and there wasn't an Intercept article mentioning it. Maybe it's just not fashionable to be outraged about it, and it wouldn't get enough clicks.
Are you actually claiming there was no media coverage of the murdered hostages?
There is a very good argument that the role of non mainstream news sources, like the Intercept, it to shed light on the news that mainstream media doesn't raise.
If the CNN was blasting 24 hours the news about this American being shot, I'm pretty sure the Intercept would not bother either.
Just an observation on the nature of media and events. The Intercept is hardly mainstream. Instead of reporting facts it produces outrage purposed dribble, and this is a good example. In this case, those facts are not determined, and the US State Department is seeking them. That's the way CNN reported it anyway. Should this turn into an Ashli Babbitt situation, the Intercept will not report it and it will not be here because it won't suit the fashionable narrative.
On a side note, I wonder what this story has to do with US Politics. Although I do see a mod in the string who should be able to explain that, but probably won't
"Why don't you ever talk about the deaths centrists aren't happy about?!"
I would hope that if you are any kind of US citizen, you would not be happy about it either. There are forest and trees, but you only see one.
We only fund one of these warring terrorist groups. Do not see that difference?
Our taxes paid for the killing of a US citizen.
So the Intercept is triggering you with this death for a purpose of government funding, while ignoring the other? IDK which is worse and it is what I said originally. Shame these young people died, but in one case we know what happened, but in this case we don't.
so you dont see the difference between us killing one of our own and someone else doing it?
Both are dead.
We didn't kill anyone. We don't know the facts, that's why the US State Department is investigating.
US State Department is investigating waiting for idf to investigate.
It's almost been a year of Israel indiscriminately killing in the area and the state department still refuses to do an investigation. Still waiting for Israel to investigate themselves.
But yeah sure. We're totally gonna do something other than fund and supply weapons
This has nothing to do with the finding of fact as to how this woman died
In fact,it's not true. First, let's ignore the fact that this woman apparently from small arms fire which we don't supply to the Israelis. Congress wrote a bill to supply other weapons to Isreal. to Isreal. It was unable to put restrictions on sale. That left it in Biden's lap. Biden asked State to evaluate how the Israelis were using weapons as it pertains to standing US law. The result was that State could not find a legal reason not to supply.
You can have your own feelings on the matter, but not your own facts
The result was that State could not find a legal reason not to supply.
Yeah, imagine that. Someone from the Biden administration pretending not to see the obvious.
We are a nation of laws. You may not like them. You may ridicule them. But you mind them anyway. It's no different for the President unless you're Trump
You celebrate bad faith in government when it's in favor of genocide.
You're no different than Trumpers who rejoiced that the system "works" when SCOTUS overturned Roe.
Minding laws has nothing to do with faith in anything.
Again it's easy to continue to not do anything if you ignore all of what's going on.
You can have your own feelings on the matter, but not your own facts
Every thread is you doing this
So, there's a report from state that says Isreal is using weapons in line with US law and someone at state doesn't agree? Call it the reason for resignation? Fact is it is still a report issued to the President
we're a nation of laws, except when we close our eyes and put heads on the sand
When a report is issued it becomes an item that can be subject to supena. Therefore, the House could get it and use it in investigation of Biden had he not followed it
We know exactly what happened, the US is just using delay tactics. Why are you upset that people are upset about the extrajudicial killing of an American Citizen by a foreign State. The IDF has killed so many American Citizens already, on top of you know, the genocide.
American-Turkish human rights activist Aysenur Ezgi Eygi, 26, succumbed to her wounds on Friday after being shot in the head by Israeli forces during a weekly protest against settlement expansions in the West Bank, according to Palestinian Authority-run news outlet Wafa.
In the case of Ashli Babbitt there were multiple eye witnesses as well who said there was no reason that she was shot. In fact she and those eye witnesses were warned to go no further or they would be shot.
Ashli Babbitt and all the others on Jan 6th were trespassing, which the police officer responded to with deadly force. I still find that unjustified but that's what happened.
In this case, these were protesters, in a Palestinian town, protesting the ethnic cleansing of the town. IDF escalated by shooting people in the head.
These are not the same
Eygi had joined protesters demonstrating against the expansion of an illegal settlement outpost, Evyatar, which was built in 2013 atop Palestinian land in Jabal Sbeih, outside of Beita. Over the past several years, Palestinian residents from Beita, alongside international activists, have held regular protests at the outpost, who are often met with violent responses from the Israeli military.
“We were standing on the road, about 200 meters from the soldiers, with a sniper clearly visible on the roof,” said the volunteer, who went by the pseudonym Mariam Dag. “Our fellow volunteer [Eygi] was standing a bit further back, near an olive tree with some other activists. Despite this, the army intentionally shot her in the head.”
Point is you still don't know the circumstance of her death. You believe in those accompanying her, but you will not wait to hear from anyone else before expressing outrage.
Just the kind of reader the Intercept wants.
Not only do we know the circumstances, this kind of behavior of Israeli soldiers killing nonviolent protestors is frequent.
So the Intercept is triggering you with this death
Just ignore it if it makes Netanyahu look bad!
Bibi is an asshole
Is that why you're whatabouting for him?
Now you're being ridiculous
My first reaction to the article wasn't "Whatabout Hamas, huh?!"
For those that can read it was about the I Intercept choice in publishing stories
I'm not. I'm also not cynically using it to whatabout in favor of a genocidal apartheid state like you're doing.
All of a sudden by questioning the Intercept I'm supporting some state? That line of logic just doesn't exist.
Then why whatabout?
I was making mention of publishing one story and ignoring another. The Intercept only wants to trigger you, and it looks like they were successful
You were whining that the intercept isn't running articles you would prefer to see and instead running articles you don't want anyone to ever know about.
I don't prefer anything.
Then whine less.
Then get less confused and making shit up
You keep calling me confused for not buying your pro-genocide bullshit.
You're gaslighting.
So if you call out the Intercept you must be pro-genocide. Does that work anywhere but in your head?
People expect terrorists to shoot innocent people in the head. They don't accept it when people claiming to fight terrorists shoot innocent people in the head.
BTW. What does this story have to do with US politics?
The lack of a response is very much US Politics.
My first reaction to that is something about the output of male cows
See it's shit like this that shows you aren't ever arguing in good faith
Never mind what I was responding to then.
Weapons. That's the connection.
The US sends vast arsenals to Israel and Israel uses those weapons for genocide and other war crimes.
This woman was killed with small arms fire. The US does not supply such weapons or ammo to Isreal.
If you look hard enough you can always find a nit to pick.
When there are billions of dollars of heavy weapons pounding the entire area to dust, it's completely disingenuous to talk about who paid for a particular bullet or gun.
The entire operation is heavily subsidized by US military donations.
A rational person would surmise that if the weapon wasn't US supplied she would have been shot in any case and weapons supplied by the US has nothing to do with the fact this is not about US politics.
But, the outrage machine doesn't look at facts.
They simply deal with hyperbolic nonsense, like your last sentance.
A rational person would take the information in context. The shooter was not acting in isolation. The shooter was part of an organized military that is heavily subsidized by the US government.
What's hyperbolic about the last sentence? It's an easily demonstrated fact that the US sends billions of dollars in military aid to Israel. It's an easily verified fact that this is a large portion of Israel's military budget.
The Israeli military is not subsidized by the US Government. Certain of their weapons are. This includes air frames, ordinance and assembly pieces. The rest of the military cost of other weapons, wages, training and maintenance is completely paid by the Israeli government. They can not spend the US Congress allocation on anything but US goods. Isreal builds it's own small arms, tanks, rockets, etc. With their own money.
This article has nothing to US Politics.
This is just insane. No normal person would doubt that arms shipments are a military subsidy.
Reply or not. I'm blocking you.
Well that was fun.
Ask a Palestinian in the West Bank if they think Hamas are terrorists or freedom fighters.
"Terrorist" is a thought-terminating cliche.
Both Israel and Hamas are religious extremists who exploit and murder innocent civilians. Neither one is worthy of our aid or our defense. Send aid to the poor people caught in the middle of this shit and stop sending weapons.
The question isn't why Palestinians aren't reporting on Hamas killing someone, the question is why isn't the West reporting on it.
Hamas killing someone is expected behavior.
You couch this story like you know what happened. You don't
Funny that just last week an American was shot in the head, executed by Hamas, and there wasn't an Intercept article mentioning it. Maybe it's just not fashionable to be outraged about it, and it wouldn't get enough clicks.
Are you actually claiming there was no media coverage of the murdered hostages?
There is a very good argument that the role of non mainstream news sources, like the Intercept, it to shed light on the news that mainstream media doesn't raise.
If the CNN was blasting 24 hours the news about this American being shot, I'm pretty sure the Intercept would not bother either.
Just an observation on the nature of media and events. The Intercept is hardly mainstream. Instead of reporting facts it produces outrage purposed dribble, and this is a good example. In this case, those facts are not determined, and the US State Department is seeking them. That's the way CNN reported it anyway. Should this turn into an Ashli Babbitt situation, the Intercept will not report it and it will not be here because it won't suit the fashionable narrative.
On a side note, I wonder what this story has to do with US Politics. Although I do see a mod in the string who should be able to explain that, but probably won't
"Why don't you ever talk about the deaths centrists aren't happy about?!"
I would hope that if you are any kind of US citizen, you would not be happy about it either. There are forest and trees, but you only see one.
We only fund one of these warring terrorist groups. Do not see that difference?
Our taxes paid for the killing of a US citizen.
So the Intercept is triggering you with this death for a purpose of government funding, while ignoring the other? IDK which is worse and it is what I said originally. Shame these young people died, but in one case we know what happened, but in this case we don't.
so you dont see the difference between us killing one of our own and someone else doing it?
Both are dead.
We didn't kill anyone. We don't know the facts, that's why the US State Department is investigating.
It's almost been a year of Israel indiscriminately killing in the area and the state department still refuses to do an investigation. Still waiting for Israel to investigate themselves.
But yeah sure. We're totally gonna do something other than fund and supply weapons
This has nothing to do with the finding of fact as to how this woman died
In fact,it's not true. First, let's ignore the fact that this woman apparently from small arms fire which we don't supply to the Israelis. Congress wrote a bill to supply other weapons to Isreal. to Isreal. It was unable to put restrictions on sale. That left it in Biden's lap. Biden asked State to evaluate how the Israelis were using weapons as it pertains to standing US law. The result was that State could not find a legal reason not to supply.
You can have your own feelings on the matter, but not your own facts
Yeah, imagine that. Someone from the Biden administration pretending not to see the obvious.
We are a nation of laws. You may not like them. You may ridicule them. But you mind them anyway. It's no different for the President unless you're Trump
You celebrate bad faith in government when it's in favor of genocide.
You're no different than Trumpers who rejoiced that the system "works" when SCOTUS overturned Roe.
Minding laws has nothing to do with faith in anything.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-state-department-official-resigns-says-us-report-gaza-inaccurate-2024-05-30/
Again it's easy to continue to not do anything if you ignore all of what's going on.
Every thread is you doing this
So, there's a report from state that says Isreal is using weapons in line with US law and someone at state doesn't agree? Call it the reason for resignation? Fact is it is still a report issued to the President
we're a nation of laws, except when we close our eyes and put heads on the sand
When a report is issued it becomes an item that can be subject to supena. Therefore, the House could get it and use it in investigation of Biden had he not followed it
We know exactly what happened, the US is just using delay tactics. Why are you upset that people are upset about the extrajudicial killing of an American Citizen by a foreign State. The IDF has killed so many American Citizens already, on top of you know, the genocide.
Ever hear of Ashli Babbitt? You don't know the circumstance , only the method.
Dude, what are you talking about. How are you comparing this situation to someone who actively took part in Jan 6th's insurrection.
We have multiple eyewitness accounts about exactly what happened
https://youtu.be/VkcVe_sSvo8
https://youtu.be/UaLdQjUEzVU
In the case of Ashli Babbitt there were multiple eye witnesses as well who said there was no reason that she was shot. In fact she and those eye witnesses were warned to go no further or they would be shot.
Ashli Babbitt and all the others on Jan 6th were trespassing, which the police officer responded to with deadly force. I still find that unjustified but that's what happened.
In this case, these were protesters, in a Palestinian town, protesting the ethnic cleansing of the town. IDF escalated by shooting people in the head.
These are not the same
Point is you still don't know the circumstance of her death. You believe in those accompanying her, but you will not wait to hear from anyone else before expressing outrage.
Just the kind of reader the Intercept wants.
Not only do we know the circumstances, this kind of behavior of Israeli soldiers killing nonviolent protestors is frequent.
Just ignore it if it makes Netanyahu look bad!
Bibi is an asshole
Is that why you're whatabouting for him?
Now you're being ridiculous
My first reaction to the article wasn't "Whatabout Hamas, huh?!"
For those that can read it was about the I Intercept choice in publishing stories
If you say so.
I'm not. I'm also not cynically using it to whatabout in favor of a genocidal apartheid state like you're doing.
All of a sudden by questioning the Intercept I'm supporting some state? That line of logic just doesn't exist.
Then why whatabout?
I was making mention of publishing one story and ignoring another. The Intercept only wants to trigger you, and it looks like they were successful
You were whining that the intercept isn't running articles you would prefer to see and instead running articles you don't want anyone to ever know about.
I don't prefer anything.
Then whine less.
Then get less confused and making shit up
You keep calling me confused for not buying your pro-genocide bullshit.
You're gaslighting.
So if you call out the Intercept you must be pro-genocide. Does that work anywhere but in your head?
People expect terrorists to shoot innocent people in the head. They don't accept it when people claiming to fight terrorists shoot innocent people in the head.
BTW. What does this story have to do with US politics?
The lack of a response is very much US Politics.
My first reaction to that is something about the output of male cows
See it's shit like this that shows you aren't ever arguing in good faith
Never mind what I was responding to then.
Weapons. That's the connection.
The US sends vast arsenals to Israel and Israel uses those weapons for genocide and other war crimes.
This woman was killed with small arms fire. The US does not supply such weapons or ammo to Isreal.
If you look hard enough you can always find a nit to pick.
When there are billions of dollars of heavy weapons pounding the entire area to dust, it's completely disingenuous to talk about who paid for a particular bullet or gun.
The entire operation is heavily subsidized by US military donations.
A rational person would surmise that if the weapon wasn't US supplied she would have been shot in any case and weapons supplied by the US has nothing to do with the fact this is not about US politics.
But, the outrage machine doesn't look at facts.
They simply deal with hyperbolic nonsense, like your last sentance.
A rational person would take the information in context. The shooter was not acting in isolation. The shooter was part of an organized military that is heavily subsidized by the US government.
What's hyperbolic about the last sentence? It's an easily demonstrated fact that the US sends billions of dollars in military aid to Israel. It's an easily verified fact that this is a large portion of Israel's military budget.
The Israeli military is not subsidized by the US Government. Certain of their weapons are. This includes air frames, ordinance and assembly pieces. The rest of the military cost of other weapons, wages, training and maintenance is completely paid by the Israeli government. They can not spend the US Congress allocation on anything but US goods. Isreal builds it's own small arms, tanks, rockets, etc. With their own money.
This article has nothing to US Politics.
This is just insane. No normal person would doubt that arms shipments are a military subsidy.
Reply or not. I'm blocking you.
Well that was fun.
Ask a Palestinian in the West Bank if they think Hamas are terrorists or freedom fighters.
"Terrorist" is a thought-terminating cliche.
Both Israel and Hamas are religious extremists who exploit and murder innocent civilians. Neither one is worthy of our aid or our defense. Send aid to the poor people caught in the middle of this shit and stop sending weapons.
The question isn't why Palestinians aren't reporting on Hamas killing someone, the question is why isn't the West reporting on it.
Hamas killing someone is expected behavior.
You couch this story like you know what happened. You don't