Having a bunch of beers rn & trying out Debian for the first time. Will I have regrets? 🤔 happy Saturday to all, drink something delicious today 🍻

CO5MO ✨@midwest.social to Linux@lemmy.ml – 170 points –
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It depends. What kind of beer?

And how many beers? Lol pretty easy to mess up dd if and of flags, as well and drive names and partition numbers, especially while drinking.

No comment 🙃 I have nothing but time today so figured I’d take advantage & partake in my vices 🍺💻👾

What a coincidence, I'm drinking mead and installing Gentoo. Currently compiling gcc, always takes forever, maybe I should've gone with the recompiled binary for that one lol.

No ragrets.

mead

Do you really drink a honey based brew?

There is almost certainly a binary version of gcc in Gentoo. I ran Gentoo for 20 odd years and also generally insisted on compiling everything. I recall gcc going from v3 to 4. My laptop ran for over a week on a glass table with a prop to keep the fan vent unobstructed.

I probably should have learned back then that I didn't really understand exactly how the toolchain worked and how to get from ebuilds to binary code really works. I'm a sysadmin and not a programmer.

With hindsight, I suggest that you pick your fights with care. Use the bin versions of entire packages where available and enjoy the flexibility of USE when it will make a difference.

gcc is not the biggest lump you will compile but it does take a while. It was rather slower 20 years ago.

Yep, I drink mead, i.e. honey wine. It's really good, doesn't give me as much of a headache as beer these days. Sometimes it's too sweet, I haven't found a good dry one around here though.

I played around with Gentoo a few years ago, got it working but then got annoyed with some binaries taking too long. Wanted to build a machine I couldn't hack though, and now there's a repo with precompiled bins if you ask portage nicely, so I figured I'd give it a shot again. Maybe it was the mead but I forgot to do that for gcc though. oops

You having regrets depends on your expectations. If you want a very stable system with little maintenance then you'll be happy. Packages will be older but that's what makes it easy to keep stable.

I'm not personally a fan of vanilla Debian because the stable versions are a bit too outdated for the things I like to work with. I do use Debian derivatives though the LTS versions.

If you’re using Debian as a daily driver you can always use a Flatpak if you need a newer version than what’s available in the repos. The foundation is solid, though, and that’s what matters - it’s one of the things that keeps bringing me back to Debian for office workstation use.

You can also use backports for some of the more "system entangled software" that cannot be packaged in a flatpak. Or, you can skip ahead to "Trixie" unstable. It has been great for me for the last several months. It's arguably more stable than what Ubuntu calls an LTS.

TY EVERYINE FOR ALL DA REPLIES DEBIAN IS PRETTY SICK, but not as sick as I’ll be tmrw worth it 😈

Are you alive today lol

Surprisingly not feeling as bad as I thought I would today 😅 appreciate the check up! && Debian is awesome 😎

Regrets aplenty after some of the things I've drank, but none of them are about Debian.

I am commenting this from a terrible strip club with friends who dragged me here. I wish I was in your position.

If you need new drivers then Debian is not the easiest distro. I love Debian but I do occasionally consider distro-hopping again to get some complex things working (like ROCm).

I do think Debian is an excellent starting place, though. If it suits you, great! If not, you'll have a better idea of what you need to look for going forward. Hopping distros isn't the end of the world, after all.

Debian for 20 years with some formative years in Gentoo. Always went back to Debian. No regrets.

Just ran out of my local brews, Troegs Field Study IPA, so going to be cracking open some Coors Banquet soon. But I don't think you will. I use Debian 12 with AwesomeWM and love it.

Main desktop runs Arch but everything else runs Debian. It's the perfect "install and forget" system so long as you don't need the absolute bleeding edge packages.

Debian has treated me kindly since I installed it a week ago. Only issue I discovered was with a wireless mouse sometimes not working on boot but thats fixed with solaar.

Still miss arch but I don't feel like installing it again lmao

Sometimes a wireless mouse problem is just "I also plugged in a USB 3.0 device, and it puts out so much RF noise that it's jamming my mouse dongle and the local airport's approach radar".

USB can be bitchy that way.

It may feel tasty and great today... but it (definitely) won't feel great as much in the future. Have some respect on yourself and drink something healthy instead -- there are better ways to have fun than that.

That aside, Debian can be very user friendly just like any other distro -- I say go for it.

Appreciate this advice wholeheartedly, fr. I have stuff I need to work on & I DEFINITELY appreciate this comment ☮️☯️