This is why we need a free and open internet without central controls.
I think what we need is governments that don't kill someone over something he says first.
You have been banned from c/Conservative.
Hahaha
There will always be people in power who use that power to stay in power, its the human condition. The best thing we can do is build systems to help people have free expression that can't be censored.
How would that stop this specific situation at all? The guy wasn't censored from tweeting, he's sentenced to death because he tweeted.
We get to talk about it, we are aware of it, we can work together as a community to appeal the government, apply sanctions, etc.
This man is being punished for speech, ensuring speech is available to everyone is the least we can do going forward.
And of course that's important, but your first comment seemed to imply that uncensored internet would have prevented this
"Sad this guy is being murdered, but what we really should be talking about is the cause I'm interested in."
reported
What did you report me for? I'm genuinely curious
What does a moderator do?
We know what mods do, what do you think a moderator do?
Censors disruptive users. According to their personal definition of disruptive.
Let me try and understand you, because jet says its good to have platforms/tools that allow for free anonymous expression like Lemmy/Mastodon/VPN/TOR/Zeronet/etc.. this somehow is an attack against the mods on Lemmy?
No, I'm correcting their implication that the fediverse is some free speech absolutist haven.
And anyone foolish enough to think the governments of the world aren't watching, and can't find you, will find out that they are very wrong.
Then why didn't you just write that instead of reported? Because of cause the fediverse is not free speech absolutist place, but it's more free than a corporate form.
It's a joke. That more people didn't get it just makes it funnier.
Technically, we could say if the internet was extremely censored and blocked any access to Twitter or VPNs, he wouldn't be sentenced to death for that reason (but probably killed for another bullshit reason)
And unicorns too now that we're dreaming
I can't build a unicorn. But i can help build a free and open internet.
Like governments would let you
You realize your on a open decentralized platform without central controls right now?
No, they clearly didn't read the Fediverse introduction some instances have during sign up!
It still relies on government infrastructure. If a government really wants, it can tell its CERT to block some IP range and probably protocols too. If you can block for example torrent at university campus, you can also block it on a country level.
I remember hearing around the time of Occupy Wall Street about a guy that wanted to create a fully civil network. Everyone wanting to be a part of it would set up a wi-fi node in their home. It seems the idea did not get traction, though
In other news, new KSA national trainer Mancini to be the best paid football coach at 30 million a year. I'm sure he's having sleepless nights after hearing this news together with Ronaldo, Neymar & co.
This is the country your government sends weapons to
I don't have a solution for this catastrophic injustice all over the world, but we - as in we humans - have to chlose down these inhumane shadows like north Korea or other nations killing people for expressing their opinion. That has to stop. We have to go the way to overcome that concept of closed nations completely, we're all on an insignificant pebble in the dark & mankind has to grow up at last, from the ego-driven toddler at least to a plagued teenager iykwim.
I don’t have a solution for this catastrophic injustice all over the world
I sure do, but I'm not about to get put on a watchlist for suggesting it.
A barbaric nation with devilish monarchy that other nations support just because of their oil money. Anybody whose government supports them should feel ashamed.
Horrible. And this is a country that wants to be seen as anything but a pariah.
Barbarians. The world must treat them like it and shame them and their children until this stops.
The "government" of Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC countries' end is coming. When they run out of oil or when oil loses demand, the same immigrants (institutionalized slaves) will revolt for equality and revolution will pursue
This is why we need a free and open internet without central controls.
I think what we need is governments that don't kill someone over something he says first.
You have been banned from c/Conservative.
Hahaha
There will always be people in power who use that power to stay in power, its the human condition. The best thing we can do is build systems to help people have free expression that can't be censored.
How would that stop this specific situation at all? The guy wasn't censored from tweeting, he's sentenced to death because he tweeted.
We get to talk about it, we are aware of it, we can work together as a community to appeal the government, apply sanctions, etc.
This man is being punished for speech, ensuring speech is available to everyone is the least we can do going forward.
And of course that's important, but your first comment seemed to imply that uncensored internet would have prevented this
"Sad this guy is being murdered, but what we really should be talking about is the cause I'm interested in."
reported
What did you report me for? I'm genuinely curious
What does a moderator do?
We know what mods do, what do you think a moderator do?
Censors disruptive users. According to their personal definition of disruptive.
Let me try and understand you, because jet says its good to have platforms/tools that allow for free anonymous expression like Lemmy/Mastodon/VPN/TOR/Zeronet/etc.. this somehow is an attack against the mods on Lemmy?
No, I'm correcting their implication that the fediverse is some free speech absolutist haven.
And anyone foolish enough to think the governments of the world aren't watching, and can't find you, will find out that they are very wrong.
Then why didn't you just write that instead of reported? Because of cause the fediverse is not free speech absolutist place, but it's more free than a corporate form.
It's a joke. That more people didn't get it just makes it funnier.
Technically, we could say if the internet was extremely censored and blocked any access to Twitter or VPNs, he wouldn't be sentenced to death for that reason (but probably killed for another bullshit reason)
And unicorns too now that we're dreaming
I can't build a unicorn. But i can help build a free and open internet.
Like governments would let you
You realize your on a open decentralized platform without central controls right now?
No, they clearly didn't read the Fediverse introduction some instances have during sign up!
It still relies on government infrastructure. If a government really wants, it can tell its CERT to block some IP range and probably protocols too. If you can block for example torrent at university campus, you can also block it on a country level.
I remember hearing around the time of Occupy Wall Street about a guy that wanted to create a fully civil network. Everyone wanting to be a part of it would set up a wi-fi node in their home. It seems the idea did not get traction, though
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Did Elon pay his legal bill?
In other news, new KSA national trainer Mancini to be the best paid football coach at 30 million a year. I'm sure he's having sleepless nights after hearing this news together with Ronaldo, Neymar & co.
This is the country your government sends weapons to
I don't have a solution for this catastrophic injustice all over the world, but we - as in we humans - have to chlose down these inhumane shadows like north Korea or other nations killing people for expressing their opinion. That has to stop. We have to go the way to overcome that concept of closed nations completely, we're all on an insignificant pebble in the dark & mankind has to grow up at last, from the ego-driven toddler at least to a plagued teenager iykwim.
I sure do, but I'm not about to get put on a watchlist for suggesting it.
A barbaric nation with devilish monarchy that other nations support just because of their oil money. Anybody whose government supports them should feel ashamed.
Horrible. And this is a country that wants to be seen as anything but a pariah.
Barbarians. The world must treat them like it and shame them and their children until this stops.
The "government" of Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC countries' end is coming. When they run out of oil or when oil loses demand, the same immigrants (institutionalized slaves) will revolt for equality and revolution will pursue
Truly astonishing.