TL;DR: There's currently a new law proposed to significantly reduce the time, cost and effort to change your name and gender, replacing the unconstitutional one from the 70s. Guess who doesn't like this and believes cis women need to be protected from dangerous trans women, therefore manufacturing scandals to influence public opinion.
thank you so much for this context!
This is a debate here in Canada.
I read one article just now, but it sounds different.
The government's changes to Policy 713, the education policy on gender identity, now make it mandatory to get parental consent before using a child under 16's chosen name and pronoun —even verbally — in class, according to Education Minister Bill Hogan.
And if a child says no to involving their parents, Hogan said they should be directed to a school psychologist or social worker to come up with a plan to do so.
This is reasonable IMO. If I'm reading this correctly, the children aren't being forcibly outed. Also I believe conversion therapy is illegal now, so in theory, this would be healthy.
Frankly, I would want children to have access to supportive parents OR qualified social workers.
EDIT: It's not different that the US if you read other articles
That's not different at all, and yes you read it wrong. They are being forcibly outed.
According to someone on a discord I was on, they got called to the principal and the principal said "don't be mad at me, but this is the rules" and made the kid call their own parents and say it.
Okay. I read more and yeah it's basically the same as the US. Apologies for the misstatement
Don't defend these terrible people. You don't have to cover for transphobia
I'm not defending transphobia. I read the news article wrong.
I thought it was saying that children who felt unsafe coming out to their parents would be given a psychologist to help them come up with a plan to deal with their family.
That's not the case, but if it was, I would possibly be supportive of that as long as conversion therapy is illegal.
Parents are being asked by schools, communities with no oublic services, and the car-centric environment to be absolutely obsessed with their kids. 24/7 cheaufers. It's horrid for children. And then the teachers and school admins aren't even trustworthy, they just happily email your parents everything you say to them. The overton window has shifted such that the opinion that your children are your property is the liberal take in America, meanwhile in Europe you can drink, drive, and fuck before you've even graduated - even though the housing crisis does prevent living life to the fullest.
While I didn't read the politico article, the California Attorney General's press release regarding this lawsuit is informative.
"The lawsuit also asserts this the Board’s plain motivations in adopting the policy were to create and harbor animosity, discrimination, and prejudice towards transgender and gender-nonconforming students, without any compelling reason to do so, as evidenced by statements made during the Board’s hearing. In discussing the policy before its passage, board members made a number of statements describing students who are transgender or gender-nonconforming as suffering from a “mental illness” or “perversion”, or as being a threat to the integrity of the nation and the family. The Board President went so far as to state that transgender and gender nonbinary individuals needed “non-affirming” parental actions so that they could “get better.”"
Its wonderful to hear some good news these days! Thanks!
Fuckin đź‘Ť
Keep in mind politico is owned by the German equivalent to Murdoch.
Here's a few headlines from this month of their main rag pretending to be news:
And a bunch of other trash I am too tired to look at.
Do they not want to go to male prison because they are MtF? You're leaving out a ton of important detail here.
If you want to know more about this, here's a German article from a more reputable source:
https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=46612
TL;DR: There's currently a new law proposed to significantly reduce the time, cost and effort to change your name and gender, replacing the unconstitutional one from the 70s. Guess who doesn't like this and believes cis women need to be protected from dangerous trans women, therefore manufacturing scandals to influence public opinion.
thank you so much for this context!
This is a debate here in Canada.
I read one article just now, but it sounds different.
This is reasonable IMO. If I'm reading this correctly, the children aren't being forcibly outed. Also I believe conversion therapy is illegal now, so in theory, this would be healthy.Frankly, I would want children to have access to supportive parents OR qualified social workers.EDIT: It's not different that the US if you read other articles
That's not different at all, and yes you read it wrong. They are being forcibly outed.
According to someone on a discord I was on, they got called to the principal and the principal said "don't be mad at me, but this is the rules" and made the kid call their own parents and say it.
Okay. I read more and yeah it's basically the same as the US. Apologies for the misstatement
Don't defend these terrible people. You don't have to cover for transphobia
I'm not defending transphobia. I read the news article wrong.
I thought it was saying that children who felt unsafe coming out to their parents would be given a psychologist to help them come up with a plan to deal with their family.
That's not the case, but if it was, I would possibly be supportive of that as long as conversion therapy is illegal.
Parents are being asked by schools, communities with no oublic services, and the car-centric environment to be absolutely obsessed with their kids. 24/7 cheaufers. It's horrid for children. And then the teachers and school admins aren't even trustworthy, they just happily email your parents everything you say to them. The overton window has shifted such that the opinion that your children are your property is the liberal take in America, meanwhile in Europe you can drink, drive, and fuck before you've even graduated - even though the housing crisis does prevent living life to the fullest.
While I didn't read the politico article, the California Attorney General's press release regarding this lawsuit is informative.
https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-bonta-announces-lawsuit-challenging-chino-valley-unified-school
"The lawsuit also asserts this the Board’s plain motivations in adopting the policy were to create and harbor animosity, discrimination, and prejudice towards transgender and gender-nonconforming students, without any compelling reason to do so, as evidenced by statements made during the Board’s hearing. In discussing the policy before its passage, board members made a number of statements describing students who are transgender or gender-nonconforming as suffering from a “mental illness” or “perversion”, or as being a threat to the integrity of the nation and the family. The Board President went so far as to state that transgender and gender nonbinary individuals needed “non-affirming” parental actions so that they could “get better.”"
Its wonderful to hear some good news these days! Thanks!