With the addition of non-free firmware in Debian ( so better hardware compatibility ) and the rising popularity of Flatpak and Distrobox ( so access to newer software ), the advantages of Ubuntu are narrowing and the problems with Ubuntu continue to mount. Basing something like Mint directly on Debian makes sense to me.
I have been considering trying Debian with Distrobox / Arch to fill any application gaps. LMDE might fill that void instead.
I use Debian and was using Arch in a Distrobox to have some AUR apps (PyCharm, DBeaver, Pulsar Editor and a few more). It's nice and I recomend you to try and have fun with it. Undoubtedly, Distrobox is a game changer - however, I believe it's a better tool to set a development environment, with the distro and packages used in the production environment. Nowadays, just to install random software on Debian, I've been using Pacstall - try it as well. In the end, I think it integrates better. For example, if I click on a link in a Markdown doc in Pulsar in a box, either it will not open the link if I don't have another browser within the box or I'll have to implement a workaround to open the host's browser.
I had never heard of Pacstall. Thanks.
You use it with Debian? It looks like it targets Ubuntu.
Yes, I use Debian and Pacstall works well on it. From their Wiki, you can see that you can target incompatible versions if applicable - I saw it in one app, incompatible with Bullseye but compatible with Bookworm and Ubuntu (maybe git-delta, if I remember well). Also, I have a small contribution to the project as well.
A Debian version of mint is incomprehensibly based
... based on Debian, yes.
Based.
What do you mean?
TLDR: 80s: On crack 90s: Being yourself, cool, swagger 2020s Alt right attempts to appropriate this to mean being an unapologetic douchnozzle
So this is mint based on Debian directly instead of ubuntu?
That's correct they released it around the time so the Amazon stuff happened if I remember right. Since debian 12 has been so popular and with flatpak and distro box gaining popularity, there's been a big call for lmde to become the focus.
Thanks for the reply! Amazon stuff? I'm so out of the loop it seems.
I dont know anything about linux but my friend recommended mint. Have to say its the second best thing ever happened to me , first being losing my virginity.
Anyone who's read any fantasy knows not to mess around with the faye. I'll wait for the next version unless that one's named Cthulhu.
yay I love LMDE :D
This is the first time I'll try a distro upgrade, let's see if it's as easy as Ubuntu-Mint!
Time to consider distro hopping
Was wondering when this would land. I've been considering returning to Debian full force but after running Mint for some years some bad habits linger. Maybe LMDE can prove to be a good middle of the way.
For those who tried: how does LMDE behaves when loading any other DE not Cinnamon?
On LMDE 5 I had some problems with multiple wm/de's but im assuming that's a large part of what they're going to fix in this release
I've seen some reviews where LMDE being the backup plan for Mint, Cinnamon was the only priority; if that is to change, great. I'm hoping to move to XFCE again.
As a not-that-tech savy person who is looking at getting back to using Linux (it's been 5 or so years since I was running Ubuntu, I dual booted for awhile but WFH generally has made me Windows only) this sounds like a distro I would enjoy
Linux mint is great. Debian version is even better.
I've been waiting for this!
I will test this tonight. Finally mint will have hardware support for my laptop with high kernel version. I will see if kernel patch for proprietary stuff also works.
Does it yet support OpenZFS root on install (with encryption) or encrypted BTRFS root install? Snapshot rollbacks are just so handy and have saved me multiple times over the past few years... I'm not sure I could give that up. NOTE: I've only needed that for physical hardware installs. VM's have other ways to be snapshotted and rolled back.
If rolling back is all you need, Mint encourages you to use Timeshift with rsync.
Ah, but rollback was of /boot. Something rsync Timeshift isn't that helpful for.
I just realized that LMDE only gets two years of support. The Ubuntu version gets 5 I think. So they want you to upgrade to the latest LMDE every time it is released.
Sweet. First line of the neofetch logo is still off doing its own thing, I see…
I may actually give this a go.
With the addition of non-free firmware in Debian ( so better hardware compatibility ) and the rising popularity of Flatpak and Distrobox ( so access to newer software ), the advantages of Ubuntu are narrowing and the problems with Ubuntu continue to mount. Basing something like Mint directly on Debian makes sense to me.
I have been considering trying Debian with Distrobox / Arch to fill any application gaps. LMDE might fill that void instead.
I use Debian and was using Arch in a Distrobox to have some AUR apps (PyCharm, DBeaver, Pulsar Editor and a few more). It's nice and I recomend you to try and have fun with it. Undoubtedly, Distrobox is a game changer - however, I believe it's a better tool to set a development environment, with the distro and packages used in the production environment. Nowadays, just to install random software on Debian, I've been using Pacstall - try it as well. In the end, I think it integrates better. For example, if I click on a link in a Markdown doc in Pulsar in a box, either it will not open the link if I don't have another browser within the box or I'll have to implement a workaround to open the host's browser.
I had never heard of Pacstall. Thanks.
You use it with Debian? It looks like it targets Ubuntu.
Yes, I use Debian and Pacstall works well on it. From their Wiki, you can see that you can target incompatible versions if applicable - I saw it in one app, incompatible with Bullseye but compatible with Bookworm and Ubuntu (maybe git-delta, if I remember well). Also, I have a small contribution to the project as well.
A Debian version of mint is incomprehensibly based
... based on Debian, yes.
Based.
What do you mean?
TLDR: 80s: On crack 90s: Being yourself, cool, swagger 2020s Alt right attempts to appropriate this to mean being an unapologetic douchnozzle
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/based/
20s: Alt left uses douchenozzle
/jHey I haven't heard of this.
So this is mint based on Debian directly instead of ubuntu?
That's correct they released it around the time so the Amazon stuff happened if I remember right. Since debian 12 has been so popular and with flatpak and distro box gaining popularity, there's been a big call for lmde to become the focus.
Thanks for the reply! Amazon stuff? I'm so out of the loop it seems.
I dont know anything about linux but my friend recommended mint. Have to say its the second best thing ever happened to me , first being losing my virginity.
Anyone who's read any fantasy knows not to mess around with the faye. I'll wait for the next version unless that one's named Cthulhu.
yay I love LMDE :D
This is the first time I'll try a distro upgrade, let's see if it's as easy as Ubuntu-Mint!
Time to consider distro hopping
Was wondering when this would land. I've been considering returning to Debian full force but after running Mint for some years some bad habits linger. Maybe LMDE can prove to be a good middle of the way.
For those who tried: how does LMDE behaves when loading any other DE not Cinnamon?
On LMDE 5 I had some problems with multiple wm/de's but im assuming that's a large part of what they're going to fix in this release
I've seen some reviews where LMDE being the backup plan for Mint, Cinnamon was the only priority; if that is to change, great. I'm hoping to move to XFCE again.
As a not-that-tech savy person who is looking at getting back to using Linux (it's been 5 or so years since I was running Ubuntu, I dual booted for awhile but WFH generally has made me Windows only) this sounds like a distro I would enjoy
Linux mint is great. Debian version is even better.
I've been waiting for this!
I will test this tonight. Finally mint will have hardware support for my laptop with high kernel version. I will see if kernel patch for proprietary stuff also works.
Does it yet support OpenZFS root on install (with encryption) or encrypted BTRFS root install? Snapshot rollbacks are just so handy and have saved me multiple times over the past few years... I'm not sure I could give that up. NOTE: I've only needed that for physical hardware installs. VM's have other ways to be snapshotted and rolled back.
If rolling back is all you need, Mint encourages you to use Timeshift with rsync.
Ah, but rollback was of /boot. Something rsync Timeshift isn't that helpful for.
I just realized that LMDE only gets two years of support. The Ubuntu version gets 5 I think. So they want you to upgrade to the latest LMDE every time it is released.
Sweet. First line of the neofetch logo is still off doing its own thing, I see…