90% of movies are already garbage, or the same recycled plots from older movies. Truly original and intriguing plots are few and far between. How much worse can it get?
You can almost always find the source for 'truely original and intriguing plots' being earlier media and what you think is new is just a fresh take on an old idea. Well done execution of well know stories still makes great movies.
You are right that 90% of movies are garbage, and AI will just make the process of kicking out more of the soulless garbage even easier than it currently is.
We can wait and see!
Some might even say more stupider
Apparently "The View" has writers.
Supposedly the studios are only allowed to train their AI on scripts THEY own. Not sure how much that matters if you’re a writer working for a studio, but as an outsider looking in, that seems to be what made the difference for the WGA.
Also, this tentative deal would only last up to September of 2026 so either way this deal has an expiration date. Does that mean that studios can do whatever they want with their AI after this date? How much more advanced is AI going to get in these 3 years? Do writers now have a 3 year lifespan remanining?
How much more advanced is AI going to get in these 3 years? Do writers now have a 3 year lifespan remanining?
It probably doesn't matter if AI gets more advanced. Cheap will always win out over quality when corporations are involved, and AI writing is dirt cheap compared to paying a human being. See: the recent controversy with the opening of 'Secret Invasion' using AI art.
the recent controversy with the opening of 'Secret Invasion' using AI art.
I don't think yo understood what happened. The studio that was commissioned the intro animation probably was paid the average for such VFX sequence, they just happened to use AI as a starting point. And trust me (I work for an "content" agency), everyone has been using AI tools for years in the industry.
Anyway, she point is that humans were still involved in 99% of the process, as always. An it's gonna stay that way for years (in VFX).
It means that writers will be back to negotiate (possibly for significantly better terms) in 2026 should AI become a big money maker. By then it'll have been too late and AI will have killed the industry.
Nobody wants to watch AI generated movies or listen to AI generated music.
I want to make my own AI generated movies and I'm very interested in watching other people's work when it starts coming out. Not everyone needs to be spoon fed their entertainment by billion dollar companies.
Good luck, have fun, and tell ChatGPT I said "hello".
Union contracts don't just expire. The contract has a 3 year term. At that point, an updated contract will need to be negotiated. If the 3 year period ends without a new contract, but the new parties are still making progress in the negotiations, the workers will continue to work under the terms of the old contract until the new one is completed.
If the negotiations are not going well, if they reach an impasse, then strikes or lockouts can happen.
Regardless, any terms in a union contract cannot be removed unless both parties agree to their removal. AI advancement or decisions by the studios could very well lead to another strike in 3 years, but any terms related to AI, or any other language in the contract will not automatically disappear at the end of the 3 year term.
Yes but more like 5 to 10 then you will see the industry purge a lot of writers and actors.
5 to 10 years is generous.
I think we're going to see a drastically different environment in less than 2 years.
Source: a friend is a newspaper reporter, and he's been telling me just how scared people are right now. It's not "happening soon" -- it has already happened and we are merely catching up to it. People don't seem to think it counts as "happening" until the last domino falls, but the dominos are falling right now.
Interesting didn't know that. It does explain how the quality of articles have gone down in the last year our two. Wonder how many we have read that was written by a bot over a human?
So won’t this be rejected?
WGA negotiators claim they're happy with the deal. I'm as confused as you seem to be.
WGA negotiators want to be called heros (and continue being paid to be negotiators), so of course they'll say they won even if they didn't.
It doesn't work like that. They have to negotiate a deal that the members will vote for.
Negotiators: We won!
Members: Oh thank you, we were worried, we really need this over.
Someone who reads the fine print: Uh, this is terrible.
Large enough percentage of Members: Hey didn't you hear them it's over quit nitpicking!
So you think most of the writers are not readers and are stupid?
I think writers need this to be over so they can get back to work. This isn't just fun summer break going on here, peoples lives are being put on hold. Doesn't mean it's a good deal though.
They can't "get back to work" if AI is taking their work. I think they're aware of that. But maybe they're all idiots.
If AI is taking their work, how is this a good deal then? I genuinely can't tell if you're in support here or not.
It's not a good deal. That's my point. That's why I don't know why the writers would vote for it.
So when they inevitably do, will you crown me and say kind words about my prowess in predicting the future? Or maybe just recognize that the writers simply want this over...
If I turn out to be wrong, would me saying "guess I was wrong" not be enough for you? I have to bow and scrape at your feet? Really? Because if that's what you expect me to do, you can go get fucked.
Likely what happened is writers are seeing what a mess AI generated art is, so they're letting the industry to have this as it might end up in a quite bad for them.
Media is poised to get so fucking stupid
90% of movies are already garbage, or the same recycled plots from older movies. Truly original and intriguing plots are few and far between. How much worse can it get?
You can almost always find the source for 'truely original and intriguing plots' being earlier media and what you think is new is just a fresh take on an old idea. Well done execution of well know stories still makes great movies.
You are right that 90% of movies are garbage, and AI will just make the process of kicking out more of the soulless garbage even easier than it currently is.
We can wait and see!
Some might even say more stupider
Apparently "The View" has writers.
Supposedly the studios are only allowed to train their AI on scripts THEY own. Not sure how much that matters if you’re a writer working for a studio, but as an outsider looking in, that seems to be what made the difference for the WGA.
Also, this tentative deal would only last up to September of 2026 so either way this deal has an expiration date. Does that mean that studios can do whatever they want with their AI after this date? How much more advanced is AI going to get in these 3 years? Do writers now have a 3 year lifespan remanining?
It probably doesn't matter if AI gets more advanced. Cheap will always win out over quality when corporations are involved, and AI writing is dirt cheap compared to paying a human being. See: the recent controversy with the opening of 'Secret Invasion' using AI art.
I don't think yo understood what happened. The studio that was commissioned the intro animation probably was paid the average for such VFX sequence, they just happened to use AI as a starting point. And trust me (I work for an "content" agency), everyone has been using AI tools for years in the industry.
Anyway, she point is that humans were still involved in 99% of the process, as always. An it's gonna stay that way for years (in VFX).
It means that writers will be back to negotiate (possibly for significantly better terms) in 2026 should AI become a big money maker. By then it'll have been too late and AI will have killed the industry.
Nobody wants to watch AI generated movies or listen to AI generated music.
I want to make my own AI generated movies and I'm very interested in watching other people's work when it starts coming out. Not everyone needs to be spoon fed their entertainment by billion dollar companies.
Good luck, have fun, and tell ChatGPT I said "hello".
Union contracts don't just expire. The contract has a 3 year term. At that point, an updated contract will need to be negotiated. If the 3 year period ends without a new contract, but the new parties are still making progress in the negotiations, the workers will continue to work under the terms of the old contract until the new one is completed.
If the negotiations are not going well, if they reach an impasse, then strikes or lockouts can happen.
Regardless, any terms in a union contract cannot be removed unless both parties agree to their removal. AI advancement or decisions by the studios could very well lead to another strike in 3 years, but any terms related to AI, or any other language in the contract will not automatically disappear at the end of the 3 year term.
Yes but more like 5 to 10 then you will see the industry purge a lot of writers and actors.
5 to 10 years is generous.
I think we're going to see a drastically different environment in less than 2 years.
Source: a friend is a newspaper reporter, and he's been telling me just how scared people are right now. It's not "happening soon" -- it has already happened and we are merely catching up to it. People don't seem to think it counts as "happening" until the last domino falls, but the dominos are falling right now.
Interesting didn't know that. It does explain how the quality of articles have gone down in the last year our two. Wonder how many we have read that was written by a bot over a human?
So won’t this be rejected?
WGA negotiators claim they're happy with the deal. I'm as confused as you seem to be.
WGA negotiators want to be called heros (and continue being paid to be negotiators), so of course they'll say they won even if they didn't.
It doesn't work like that. They have to negotiate a deal that the members will vote for.
Negotiators: We won!
Members: Oh thank you, we were worried, we really need this over.
Someone who reads the fine print: Uh, this is terrible.
Large enough percentage of Members: Hey didn't you hear them it's over quit nitpicking!
So you think most of the writers are not readers and are stupid?
I think writers need this to be over so they can get back to work. This isn't just fun summer break going on here, peoples lives are being put on hold. Doesn't mean it's a good deal though.
They can't "get back to work" if AI is taking their work. I think they're aware of that. But maybe they're all idiots.
If AI is taking their work, how is this a good deal then? I genuinely can't tell if you're in support here or not.
It's not a good deal. That's my point. That's why I don't know why the writers would vote for it.
So when they inevitably do, will you crown me and say kind words about my prowess in predicting the future? Or maybe just recognize that the writers simply want this over...
If I turn out to be wrong, would me saying "guess I was wrong" not be enough for you? I have to bow and scrape at your feet? Really? Because if that's what you expect me to do, you can go get fucked.
Likely what happened is writers are seeing what a mess AI generated art is, so they're letting the industry to have this as it might end up in a quite bad for them.
Fuck