Everyone being so shocked at Tiktok ads while they have been watching as many or even more ads via their daily TV sessions.. for decades, and no one bats an eye at that?
Wtf are you talking about? Arguably the rise of streaming and TV recording is purely due to the disgusting amounts of advertising on TV. Streamers start adding ads to their paid services and everyone goes "this is why we stopped watching live TV, are you stupid, Netflix?" Nobody bats an eye at TV ads? I literally haven't watched live TV for over a decade. What planet have you been living on?
I said that no one seems to be shocked by the amount of ads on tv, while they are so shocked by the same amount on tiktok. Which I think is rather peculiar (or hypocritical). If that was not clear, then please accept my apologies.
Yes that's what I thought you said. I asked wtf you were talking about because what you were saying is so incorrect that it is like you intentionally chose the opposite of the truth, sorry if that wasn't clear.
"shocking"?
What did they expect?
Its business insider. They probably drank their own koolaid and assumed capitalism altruistically served up top tier content. The only other alternative piece would be justifying the deluge of ads as necessary and unavoidable to ensure the continued operation of tiktok
So don't use it? I don't understand why people complain and then don't do anything as a result of their complaint.
Stop using the crappy platform. If you want video hosting there are literally way better options and that predate tiktok
If you want video hosting there are literally way better options and that predate tiktok
like what ? There are no alternatives to TT as of now, people want the same experience when they switch from a big platform to a smaller one, the smaller one has to offer something that the bigger one doesn't, it could be better Ui ( but similar ), better loading times, No ads as you mentioned.. just better
So it justifies why they made the switch, remember to them, their sacrifice is content to be viewed and therefore value... ( if we can even call it that 🙄 )
I don't think an ethical alternative could exist, simply because TT, Facebook, Instagram, rely on dark patterns to make their users hooked, mindlessly scrolling down, swiping up, and reducing their attention span in the process
If the user don't get that same stimulation as before they're not gonna stick around using the better alternative
I think you're right. I hate that you are, but reality points to that being the reason these platforms continue to grow and thrive.
I read once that the only two industries that call people users are the tech industry and the drug industry
ever since then, I have been saying the word : stimulate, because that's what they do, they give users that dopamine rush, with push notifications, reminders, SMS and Email notifications, suggestions based on behavioral tracking and shady algorithms that triggers emotions mainly - but not limited to -anger ( because that drives engagement )... Etc
This doesn't mean it's not worth taking a shot, when these platforms screw up ( and they will ), when the migration starts you want your alternative to be able to handle the weight
Seems like people are going off the headline only, so here are some more details. While the results are predictable, it's still worth exploring for how bad it is
The results? On TikTok, about a third of the content we watched were ads — but it didn't always feel that way.
TikTok didn't respond to a request for data on how frequently ads supposed are to on the bak site and how these ads are dispersed on the For You Page (FYP). However, a TikTok spokesperson told Insider ads supposed are to represent a small portion of the content people should see on their FYP.
Hannah's observations
Sebastian's observations
yeah agreed with your sentiment. I think it’s good to have an intuition about something, but it’s much better when there’s data to back it up.
Cuz then, they can do the same with others, say Youtube or other streaming services, and start to compare the numbers, like % of ads, what types of ads, how long are the ads relative to content, how many of these ads are political, how many of these ads may be harmful, …
Having these numbers can be quite handy for other researchers and regulators to look into these issues more concretely, rather than just say, “as your brothers and sisters already know, tiktok serves ads”
Not much different than Facebook, instagram, tumblr. About every forty post was an advertisement. It’s why I left those.
We're you expecting a different outcome?
The only place were the ads are better content than the content
One thousand TikToks? How do you retain your sanity from watching that many?
muting the shitty music reduces harmful effects by 54.6%
That's only 3-4 hours. I think most of us would be fine doing that for our job. I certainly would watch 3-4 hours of TikTok and write down some statistics for getting paid.
30mins in my eyes would start bleeding
You deserve worse for watching that many tik toks.
We watched 1,000 TikToks in one sitting.
"Doctor, when I bash my head against a brick wall, it hurts!"
Do you not have anything better to do with your time?
This is the entire news story.
For me, this is the real news:
Everyone being so shocked at Tiktok ads while they have been watching as many or even more ads via their daily TV sessions.. for decades, and no one bats an eye at that?
Wtf are you talking about? Arguably the rise of streaming and TV recording is purely due to the disgusting amounts of advertising on TV. Streamers start adding ads to their paid services and everyone goes "this is why we stopped watching live TV, are you stupid, Netflix?" Nobody bats an eye at TV ads? I literally haven't watched live TV for over a decade. What planet have you been living on?
I said that no one seems to be shocked by the amount of ads on tv, while they are so shocked by the same amount on tiktok. Which I think is rather peculiar (or hypocritical). If that was not clear, then please accept my apologies.
Yes that's what I thought you said. I asked wtf you were talking about because what you were saying is so incorrect that it is like you intentionally chose the opposite of the truth, sorry if that wasn't clear.
"shocking"?
What did they expect?
Its business insider. They probably drank their own koolaid and assumed capitalism altruistically served up top tier content. The only other alternative piece would be justifying the deluge of ads as necessary and unavoidable to ensure the continued operation of tiktok
So don't use it? I don't understand why people complain and then don't do anything as a result of their complaint.
Stop using the crappy platform. If you want video hosting there are literally way better options and that predate tiktok
like what ? There are no alternatives to TT as of now, people want the same experience when they switch from a big platform to a smaller one, the smaller one has to offer something that the bigger one doesn't, it could be better Ui ( but similar ), better loading times, No ads as you mentioned.. just better
So it justifies why they made the switch, remember to them, their sacrifice is content to be viewed and therefore value... ( if we can even call it that 🙄 )
I don't think an ethical alternative could exist, simply because TT, Facebook, Instagram, rely on dark patterns to make their users hooked, mindlessly scrolling down, swiping up, and reducing their attention span in the process
If the user don't get that same stimulation as before they're not gonna stick around using the better alternative
I think you're right. I hate that you are, but reality points to that being the reason these platforms continue to grow and thrive.
I read once that the only two industries that call people users are the tech industry and the drug industry
ever since then, I have been saying the word : stimulate, because that's what they do, they give users that dopamine rush, with push notifications, reminders, SMS and Email notifications, suggestions based on behavioral tracking and shady algorithms that triggers emotions mainly - but not limited to -anger ( because that drives engagement )... Etc
This doesn't mean it's not worth taking a shot, when these platforms screw up ( and they will ), when the migration starts you want your alternative to be able to handle the weight
Seems like people are going off the headline only, so here are some more details. While the results are predictable, it's still worth exploring for how bad it is
Hannah's observations
Sebastian's observations
yeah agreed with your sentiment. I think it’s good to have an intuition about something, but it’s much better when there’s data to back it up.
Cuz then, they can do the same with others, say Youtube or other streaming services, and start to compare the numbers, like % of ads, what types of ads, how long are the ads relative to content, how many of these ads are political, how many of these ads may be harmful, …
Having these numbers can be quite handy for other researchers and regulators to look into these issues more concretely, rather than just say, “as your brothers and sisters already know, tiktok serves ads”
Not much different than Facebook, instagram, tumblr. About every forty post was an advertisement. It’s why I left those.
We're you expecting a different outcome?
The only place were the ads are better content than the content
One thousand TikToks? How do you retain your sanity from watching that many?
muting the shitty music reduces harmful effects by 54.6%
That's only 3-4 hours. I think most of us would be fine doing that for our job. I certainly would watch 3-4 hours of TikTok and write down some statistics for getting paid.
30mins in my eyes would start bleeding
You deserve worse for watching that many tik toks.
"Doctor, when I bash my head against a brick wall, it hurts!"
Do you not have anything better to do with your time?
LOL, whay any sane human would do that?
This is how you get brain rot and die.