Anybody have any news on Firefox inbuilt translations? It would be fantastic if it made its way to android
Is there an extension that fixes the homepage to allow more than 2 rows of bookmarks? It is such a waste to have half the screen empty yet still having to swipe left to display more bookmarks.
Still waiting for this to make it to Mull...
It's been there for me since the whole thing started
Was one or two weeks ago done. I already can install additional extensions. Check for updates
EDIT: it seems like it is changed to false by default in recent update.
I have tried to use Firefox on mobile for specifically this reason. Kept using for 2 weeks and just gave up because browsing experience was super laggy on S23 Ultra even with noscript (e.g. Framework laptop website). Switched to Cromite. I don't think I'm coming back to Firefox unless they do something about user experience and smoothness first, no matter the extensions count.
Curious, my Mull on GrapheneOS runs fine with extensions. I have CAD, cleanURL, and ublock enabled. I have tried Decentraleyes enabled or not enabled, both works fine on frameork's front page.
Maybe you want to disable some extensions an try again?
Dear Mozilla, we really appreciated your intentions but we don't need more extensions but Gecko Webview to compete against Google's monopoly in this area. Chrome-based browsers are far ahead when it comes to security, see for example the GrapheneOS team of developers who preferred to adopt a Chromium-based browser rather than adopting Firefox as the default browser, they don't even recommend using it
GrapheneOS isn't a benchmark, it's a choice of a random distro essentially, others choose differently.
If you think Chromium is safer or more secure than Firefox, you are mistaking, just take a look at the changelogs of both
Changelog is not the point but the fundamental concepts and techniques. And unfortunately Chromium is far ahead.
Graphene as the most hardened OS is the benchmark. It's not random. Please inform.
Which 3rd party audit says that
Please don't link a random news site or blog post
I'm not a security expert so I can't say if your right on that point, but somehow I trust the Mozilla foundation much more than Google. Isn't the whole point of their browser to allow them to spy on you?
GrapheneOS is security first, but not so privacy focused in terms of their browser. In fact, they state that explicitly in the usage guide:
Vanadium was previously primarily focused on security hardening but we plan on adding assorted privacy and usability features. In the near future, we plan to add support for always incognito mode, content filtering (ad blocking, etc.), improved state partitioning, backup/restore and many other features.
The only reason they dont recommend firefox is because it adds attack surface (of course, every app you use, adds some attack surface) and it dont have pre-site process isolation. This is NOT a privacy feature, but a exploit protection feature. Until a exploit has been discovered, with or without isolation, websites cannot interfere with each other.
Their Vanadium is, in fact, middle of the road in terms of data isolation and don't have any tracker blocker or fingerprint resistant. It is a tradeoff they made between privacy and usablity. If you want to read more: https://divestos.org/pages/browsers
I personally do agree with them that the "privacy theater" approach is not a long term solution, and we need more principled approach to privacy with proper threat model. However, currently, without more substantial research, messy privacy theater unfortunately seems to be the way to go; just like most corporations do use a anti-virus, even when they are not the way to archive "decent security".
GrapheneOS has a tendency to market their security/privacy choices as arbitrary to its users, probably to make them easier to understand. This is unfortunately enhanced by several GrapheneOS YouTubers.
Many times recommendations from GrapheneOS are strictly better than they competition, sometimes their advantage are not necessarily strict, but a tradeoff. I believe for Vanadium, their recommendation leans towards later.
Keep em coming. Extensions are what makes FF the best browser.
"Now" = since December 14th, the day this post was published.
I like that they're opening it up, but I don't see any "must have" extensions beyond what I already have.
Sponsor block and just use YouTube in the browser instead of the app
return dislike and ublock wile you're at it, but why not use revanced?
Anybody have any news on Firefox inbuilt translations? It would be fantastic if it made its way to android
Is there an extension that fixes the homepage to allow more than 2 rows of bookmarks? It is such a waste to have half the screen empty yet still having to swipe left to display more bookmarks.
Still waiting for this to make it to Mull...
It's been there for me since the whole thing started
Was one or two weeks ago done. I already can install additional extensions. Check for updates
I was waiting for the Add-Ons screen to look like Iceraven's, but I see I can just install from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/ now!
You can, mull disable extension by default to avoid fingerprinting. You just need to enable it.
Go to
about:configand changeprivacy.resistFingerprinting.block_mozAddonManagerto false.See: https://divestos.org/pages/broken#mull
EDIT: it seems like it is changed to false by default in recent update.
I have tried to use Firefox on mobile for specifically this reason. Kept using for 2 weeks and just gave up because browsing experience was super laggy on S23 Ultra even with noscript (e.g. Framework laptop website). Switched to Cromite. I don't think I'm coming back to Firefox unless they do something about user experience and smoothness first, no matter the extensions count.
Curious, my Mull on GrapheneOS runs fine with extensions. I have CAD, cleanURL, and ublock enabled. I have tried Decentraleyes enabled or not enabled, both works fine on frameork's front page.
Maybe you want to disable some extensions an try again?
Dear Mozilla, we really appreciated your intentions but we don't need more extensions but Gecko Webview to compete against Google's monopoly in this area. Chrome-based browsers are far ahead when it comes to security, see for example the GrapheneOS team of developers who preferred to adopt a Chromium-based browser rather than adopting Firefox as the default browser, they don't even recommend using it
GrapheneOS isn't a benchmark, it's a choice of a random distro essentially, others choose differently.
If you think Chromium is safer or more secure than Firefox, you are mistaking, just take a look at the changelogs of both
Changelog is not the point but the fundamental concepts and techniques. And unfortunately Chromium is far ahead.
Graphene as the most hardened OS is the benchmark. It's not random. Please inform.
Which 3rd party audit says that
Please don't link a random news site or blog post
I'm not a security expert so I can't say if your right on that point, but somehow I trust the Mozilla foundation much more than Google. Isn't the whole point of their browser to allow them to spy on you?
GrapheneOS is security first, but not so privacy focused in terms of their browser. In fact, they state that explicitly in the usage guide:
The only reason they dont recommend firefox is because it adds attack surface (of course, every app you use, adds some attack surface) and it dont have pre-site process isolation. This is NOT a privacy feature, but a exploit protection feature. Until a exploit has been discovered, with or without isolation, websites cannot interfere with each other.
Read about their browser and web browsing recommendations here: https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing
Their Vanadium is, in fact, middle of the road in terms of data isolation and don't have any tracker blocker or fingerprint resistant. It is a tradeoff they made between privacy and usablity. If you want to read more: https://divestos.org/pages/browsers
I personally do agree with them that the "privacy theater" approach is not a long term solution, and we need more principled approach to privacy with proper threat model. However, currently, without more substantial research, messy privacy theater unfortunately seems to be the way to go; just like most corporations do use a anti-virus, even when they are not the way to archive "decent security".
GrapheneOS has a tendency to market their security/privacy choices as arbitrary to its users, probably to make them easier to understand. This is unfortunately enhanced by several GrapheneOS YouTubers.
Many times recommendations from GrapheneOS are strictly better than they competition, sometimes their advantage are not necessarily strict, but a tradeoff. I believe for Vanadium, their recommendation leans towards later.
Personally, I use grapheneOS with Mull.