A "Healthy Amount of Cheese" is always an Unhealthy Amount of Cheese.

themeatbridge@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world – 219 points –

I heard someone say this in a video recipe, followed by way more cheese than you should eat at once. It occurred to me that the phrase means ample, not nutritious.

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Did the person happen to have a southern accent?

As someone from the south, that’s what “healthy” means when used to describe an amount of something. It means “a lot”.

Also, if you say someone looks healthy you’re basically calling them fat, depending on tone of voice and inflection.

Yeah what I was going to say, too. "Healthy" in the context of an amount usually means "be quite generous".

Cheese is pretty healthy. It will actually make you feel full unlike processed junk food which bypasses the full feeling completely so you consume more.

Processed cheese may or may not be worse, depending on the processing and depending on the cheese you compare it to. There are thousands of kinds of cheese.

And even the healthiest cheese can still be eaten in excess. That was my point, not that cheese is unhealthy, but adding "a healthy amount" is phrase that really means more than one person should eat.

Thats true. American cheese is just water(chemicals) down cheddar.

Sodium citrate. If you want the best cheese sauce you'll ever have that doesn't break, use whatever cheese you want for the sauce, and add a teaspoon of sodium citrate. You can refrigerate that cheese sauce and it won't break.

What's the ratio of cheese to sodium citrate?

6 cups or a pound and a half of cheese, shredded, half cup of flour, half cup of butter, 2.5 cups of half and half, 1.5 cups of milk. Add a teaspoon of sodium citrate to that much cheese sauce, or about 8 cups of sauce. That will make enough sauce for a pound of macaroni product noodles. I generally do twisty or shells

If you don't have pure sodium citrate, a single slice of American Cheese will do the trick.

I appreciate this tip, I've had lots of trouble trying to make home made cheese sauce. Even if I felt the flour and milk cooked long enough and I added cheese slowly, I had trouble getting everything to come together. It may be that I still wasnt cooking long enough either because I have a bad habit of scorching the milk, so I would pull it off the burner perhaps too soon. I don't know exact I haven't tried it enough, because I don't like wasting food.

Turn your burner down. If you're scorching the milk, your burner is too high. I do all of this at a 3/10 on my stove. You cannot rush this. Patience is key.

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How is cheese unhealry?
Maybe trash cheese but not proper cheese products.

Too much of anything is unhealthy. Too much fat, too much sodium, too many calories, take your pick. The best quality cheese can still be eaten in excess.

In fact, too much water is deadly. We call this "drowning". (or hyponatremia, which is very not-nice way to go but luckily not that easy to achieve)

On keto fat/cheese is one of the recommended satiating foods. Eat as much as you want and be healthy in the context of the diet.

In the case of the recipe I was watching, it was a pizza covered with penne pasta, so I'm guessing it wasn't a keto recipe.