Hardline DeSantis immigration law causes exodus of migrant workers from Florida agriculture and construction

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DeSantis immigration law causes exodus of migrant workers from Florida agriculture
independent.co.uk

“We are in dire need of workers, so there is a lot of fear from across the state ... that this new law will actually be devastating."

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Is this the "find out" part?

I think this is the "find out" part.

The best part will be when they find out that local floridians absolutely will not work for the same wages, and in many cases any wage, for the same labor. Similar actions in the past have left crops rotting in the fields because no one wants to harvest them. This incident in california comes to mind although of course that was nowhere near as harsh...

The sad thing is, the more likely "fix" for this will just be legalizing this insane system of unfairly and illegally-paid migrant workers rather than forcing the ag businesses to offer fair compensation.

Like, I love seeing Desantis hoisted by his own petard here, but also... it should not be legal to exploit undocumented workers. If these workers are necessary to make the economy function, something is wrong with the economy. Which is definitely true for the US agricultural economy.

Much like with Reedy Creek, he's doing the right thing in the stupidest way possible and for the absolutely wrong reasons.

The sad thing is, the more likely “fix” for this will just be legalizing this insane system of unfairly and illegally-paid migrant workers rather than forcing the ag businesses to offer fair compensation.

Or they'll use prisoners.

Would it even be America without a non-citizen underclass to do all the hard work while their free existence in society is made illegal, justifying oppressive police forces to "deal with the problem"

Legalizing immigrants means they can't get deported for fighting back or trying to quit. And having no choice is the #1 requirement for exploitation.

Didn't the uk go through the same shit recently as well?

Yup. Surprise surprise, if you exit the EU you're not going to get business from a lot of truck drivers that live in other countries.

Yes.

This is all easily predictable if you aren't in an un-reality bubble.

Lol it fuckin better be devastating, maybe the republicans will realize just how much their leadership is impeding progress. Probably not though.

They will never realize. At this point they're being fed a completely different narrative in their echo chambers. It's never their fault & they're always fighting the good fight.

maybe the republicans will realize just how much their leadership is impeding progress.

There will always be so many dumb ones. I mean, when was the last time you saw a poltical slogan--written on a $60K truck with white duct tape--that wasn't republican? Politicians in both parties are crooks, but the diehards in one party are just so much more ignorant.

Someone needs to remind DeSatan that he is not Native American, and thus he owes his very existence to immigrants. Maybe his ancestors should have been kicked out of America.

To be frank, I think this is a good thing. Maybe working conditions will improve. Leftists always say with businesses that pay shit wages "If raising your employee pay to a living wage would kill your business, it didn't deserve to exist in the first place."

That should apply to everyone.

Keeping this system of exploitation (which is what hiring undocumented immigrants is) is an affront to humanity. It's sad that this is even tolerated. I mean, DeSantis is a hack who hates freedom and should not become president, but this is one of his few moves I (mostly) agree with.

Being forced to pay competitive wages would be a major benefit to poor/uneducated workers and their families.

I always love the line, “Americans won’t do X kind of labor.”

Nope, not for $3/hr. Working in a field for $30/hr? I suspect there would be little difficulty hiring.

Definitely. Hell, maybe if food started to rot on the vine, we'd get a WWII-style sense of community back. Americans were (mostly) Americans first, political camps second when it was wartime. And saving our nation from (supposed) starvation I think would bring lots and lots together. Something this country damn well needs with how isolated we are as people.

"Uninspired by the recruiting call, independent we stand, independent we fall."

Anyone who wears a shirt with their own name on it is a loser in my book.

Oh looky there, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions! 🫣I’m only worried about all that food that will rot in the fields, Florida farms feed a lot of people… good for the immigrant workers saying F this and leaving the state though, more power to them and I hope they all find better alternative employment in more friendly parts of the country.

Don’t say immigrant

Perhaps the best thing would be to say "illegal immigrants"

The majority of legal immigrants know the struggle to become citizens, but also don't want to feel like they wasted time because of what's happening currently.

"You want to come to the United States? Go for it, just do it by the book"

"Do it by the book" when your life is in danger is supposed to be coming to the border and requesting asylum. And these days, that means "fuck you, go back and die."

Or get dumped in another state as some sort of political theater when you came in legally as an asylum seeker…

That’s true for a Mexican asylum seeker but for others, Eg Venezuelans recently, they have to pass through like 6 other countries before coming to the US border.

Most everyone comes to the US for one primary reason and I would be doing the same if I were them.

There is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" in this country. It is not illegal to be in the US without papers, no matter if you entered legally or not. And "entering legally" means going through a checkpoint. You have to do that regardless of whether you're a citizen or not. Plenty of undocumented immigrants enter legally and then overstay their visa, which is not a crime in the US. It's literally not part of the criminal code.

Er, people absolutely do enter through non-checkpoints. And it is a crime, though IIRC it’s a misdemeanor. At least argue in good faith.

Er, people absolutely do enter through non-checkpoints.

Of course, but that doesn't determine whether you're documented or not. You can be undocumented and have entered through the proper checkpoints. Or you can be a citizen and enter illegally. Entering illegally is a misdemeanor, and it does not make you an illegal immigrant. In fact, nothing makes you an illegal immigrant in the US because legally that concept simply does not exist. Congress would have to change that.

There is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant." It is not illegal to be in the US without papers, no matter if you entered legally or not. And "entering legally" means going through a checkpoint. You have to do that regardless of whether you're a citizen or not. Plenty of undocumented immigrants enter legally and then overstay their visa, which is not a crime in the US. It's literally not part of the criminal code.