Where is the part about capturing the supreme court so you can try an insurrection with no consequences?
That comes after the election, of course!
*raises hand*
If we aren't American, may we be excused?
no, actually, and there’s a reason:
in another thread here there were some non-us folk lecturing US democrats that voting “uncommitted” in the primary (where incumbents always sweep) as a message to Biden in protest of the genocide in Gaza is “fascist.”
i want everyone, even randos from Australia, to know what the process is if such lecturing is gonna happen so that discourse stops stooping to uninformed accusations (it happened multiple times lol)
That's fair. If it helps, I don't generally talk about US politics. Not my place (literally).
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you (and you alone) may be excused
Tell ya what, I'll have an uninformed opinion on your government if you want to return the favor.
Tbh, the US has so much power and plays such an important role in the world that it is everyone's place. Sad things is that we don't have a vote on where the US is heading.
As an American I'd also like to be excused. This is an outdated infographic that doesn't include the part where the loser claims to win, and then tries to kill members of the government and take back the presidency.
shhhhh that’s a secret part only Republicans get to do
I demand equal opportunity to throw an armed temper tantrum!
Only if you can tell the class how your country's election process works
*lowers hand*
It's quite weird actually: You vote for a party and a local candidate. The local candidate get's into parlament directly while the rest of parlament is filled proportionally to the general cast vote if they manage to get over 5% of the votes (this does not apply to direct winning candidates or recognized minority representing parties). With parliament resizing to accomodate for at least your direct candidates to represent your percentage. Which always made me wonder, if everyone votes for just Party A's direct candidates, but they get 0% of the general vote, would all other parties then have to get infinite extra positions? That would result in an infinitely big parliament, which basically means every citizen is now in parliament, and kinda get's around the fight over universal basic income, right?
[x] nor can hold office in the United States or a state if they have previously taken an oath to support the Constitution and then engaged in insurrection or rebellion against it.*
*unless they have packed the court with right wingnut justices
(Or spineless liberals)
It’s hard to care about primaries when we’ve known for weeks that it’s going to be Trump vs. Biden.
It is exciting because for democrats you can make your desire to end the genocide known and for republicans, whoever is has no ethics and is still registered as such, can at least make Trump perform like shit despite effectively running as a 2nd term incumbent (even if he wins a state, it’s at a much worse ratio than Biden versus his opponents and the protest vote).
That is true. I was just thinking about the candidates themselves.
Gotta make our own fun! And yet be ready to abs trash fascism at the ballot box in November.
The fact that this image is so complicated is a massive problem.
It's really not complicated, it's just busy. Linear charts shouldn't snake across a page.
So where's the part where the politicians do sexual favors (and promise a fuckton of legislative favors) for plutocrats, oligarchs and lobbyists once they're in office?
The part that makes the US an oligarchy with extra steps, in which officials never change their vote in favor of popular opinion over elite opinion, not even once is not mentioned on this chart.
They can vote for their vice president of choice, even if it's not the one selected by the elected president?
Originally the VP was whoever got the second most votes. Then the 13th Ammendment happened. Now in most states (all states) the President and VP run as a pair but the Electoral Delegates vote for them separately.
Can the delegates vote for one and not the other? Depends. Traditionally you cast your delegate vote according to the results so you'd vote along "ticket" lines. In some states delegates ( who are often put forward by the parties) are bound to vote according to the election results. In some states they are not. Traditionally they do but as we saw last US election we aren't even pretending to be doing sane things anymore.
Where is the part about capturing the supreme court so you can try an insurrection with no consequences?
That comes after the election, of course!
*raises hand*
If we aren't American, may we be excused?
no, actually, and there’s a reason:
in another thread here there were some non-us folk lecturing US democrats that voting “uncommitted” in the primary (where incumbents always sweep) as a message to Biden in protest of the genocide in Gaza is “fascist.”
i want everyone, even randos from Australia, to know what the process is if such lecturing is gonna happen so that discourse stops stooping to uninformed accusations (it happened multiple times lol)
That's fair. If it helps, I don't generally talk about US politics. Not my place (literally).
giga_chad.gif
you (and you alone) may be excused
Tell ya what, I'll have an uninformed opinion on your government if you want to return the favor.
Tbh, the US has so much power and plays such an important role in the world that it is everyone's place. Sad things is that we don't have a vote on where the US is heading.
As an American I'd also like to be excused. This is an outdated infographic that doesn't include the part where the loser claims to win, and then tries to kill members of the government and take back the presidency.
shhhhh that’s a secret part only Republicans get to do
I demand equal opportunity to throw an armed temper tantrum!
Only if you can tell the class how your country's election process works
*lowers hand*
It's quite weird actually: You vote for a party and a local candidate. The local candidate get's into parlament directly while the rest of parlament is filled proportionally to the general cast vote if they manage to get over 5% of the votes (this does not apply to direct winning candidates or recognized minority representing parties). With parliament resizing to accomodate for at least your direct candidates to represent your percentage. Which always made me wonder, if everyone votes for just Party A's direct candidates, but they get 0% of the general vote, would all other parties then have to get infinite extra positions? That would result in an infinitely big parliament, which basically means every citizen is now in parliament, and kinda get's around the fight over universal basic income, right?
[x] nor can hold office in the United States or a state if they have previously taken an oath to support the Constitution and then engaged in insurrection or rebellion against it.*
*unless they have packed the court with right wingnut justices
(Or spineless liberals)
It’s hard to care about primaries when we’ve known for weeks that it’s going to be Trump vs. Biden.
It is exciting because for democrats you can make your desire to end the genocide known and for republicans, whoever is has no ethics and is still registered as such, can at least make Trump perform like shit despite effectively running as a 2nd term incumbent (even if he wins a state, it’s at a much worse ratio than Biden versus his opponents and the protest vote).
That is true. I was just thinking about the candidates themselves.
Gotta make our own fun! And yet be ready to abs trash fascism at the ballot box in November.
here is one reason to care if you like
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ACAB (all corporations are bastards) https://web.archive.org/web/20240306111706/https://www.wcvb.com/article/some-massachusetts-voters-use-super-tuesday-to-send-message-to-frontrunners/60103614 it’s about Palestinian protest vote on dem side and Haley protest vote on repub side
The fact that this image is so complicated is a massive problem.
It's really not complicated, it's just busy. Linear charts shouldn't snake across a page.
So where's the part where the politicians do sexual favors (and promise a fuckton of legislative favors) for plutocrats, oligarchs and lobbyists once they're in office?
The part that makes the US an oligarchy with extra steps, in which officials never change their vote in favor of popular opinion over elite opinion, not even once is not mentioned on this chart.
They can vote for their vice president of choice, even if it's not the one selected by the elected president?
Originally the VP was whoever got the second most votes. Then the 13th Ammendment happened. Now in most states (all states) the President and VP run as a pair but the Electoral Delegates vote for them separately.
Can the delegates vote for one and not the other? Depends. Traditionally you cast your delegate vote according to the results so you'd vote along "ticket" lines. In some states delegates ( who are often put forward by the parties) are bound to vote according to the election results. In some states they are not. Traditionally they do but as we saw last US election we aren't even pretending to be doing sane things anymore.