Huge thanks to Vaxry and all contributors, Hyprland is great!
I've been tinkering with it lately and really like it as a shiny alternative. Might switch to my primary if I can get some real tinker time. Having a young family makes it hard to have hobbies!
Definitely a friendlier and more intuitive option for newcomers than something like sway. I've been thinking about sway though because static layouts would play nicer with my ultra wide.
Dynamic tilers don't really consider evenly spitting apps into thirds or a window automatically taking three fifths while stacking two others or combinations of the two.
Space is definitely a premium on a 2560x1080 screen.
Ooh, I moved to hyprland a few months ago and fell in love, but sway will give me static layouts? My singular gripe with hyprland is I want to keep my RDP app fixed to a size and never resized for anything, because when that window resizes inadvertently, I have to MFA half a dozen connections. I mostly like the dynamic tiling, but I'd like to fix one window on one workspace and never have it resize.
Have you tried window rules to make RDP automatically spawn onto a different workspace? Or you can set it to float and keep aspect ratio with window rules and maybe with minimum size so it doesn't get too small.
I haven't played with pseudo tiling, by default it's super+p I think it keeps aspect ratio and size but I haven't messed with it that much. If pseudo works you can set that as a window rules probably with size.
I think it's called manual wm, my bad. I think there's a way to define a layout for arranging the windows in a certain way. Regardless you tell it to either vertically or horizontally split the currently focused window when you spawn a new window.
There might even be a way to define how a dynamic wm extension arranged windows by creating a pattern or set of rules. When I have more free time I want to play with it on my laptop because they just don't want to bother with Nvidia like Hyperland has.
Edit: now I wanna play with window rules and find a solution to your RDP problem.
Can you go in more about the sway comparison... I used sway for a few months and miss it a bit but touchegg is really hard to let go of. But I've been eyeing hyprland
I'm probably not the best source for that, sorry. I've heard about this or than on sway but I haven't really been able to use sway until recently because my desktop has Nvidia. (I have a laptop now)
But I've heard Hyperland being compared to awesomewm but with fancy animations and quality of life changes you probably wouldn't find in any other wayland wm.
There's better window capture where you can focus on individual apps, there's the ability to pass hotkeys to x11 apps by adding it to the config, there's whatever the latest feature wlroots has before it is included in the release, etc..
You might be able to install it along side sway and use all the same software bar the config file. You could probably do foo -c /point/to/different/config in most apps to keep things separate and set up a script to kill xdg-portal-wlroots and start xdg-portal-hyprland. Or you could just use portal-wlroots they are almost one to one minus the screen capture tricks.
The documentation is top notch so it should be easy to get into. If your system has to be rock solid stable I'd be weary because the project moves at a breakneck speed and is largely done by one guy with help but I haven't had any issues so far. If touchegg supports sway it should support hyprland because they're both based on wlroots.
A really solid option, in my experience. I'd even call it stable if they weren't mangling the config from time to time.
What does it do that sway doesn't?
I remember someone talking about animation but I never really look into it.
Just take a look at the video on the main page, it demonstrates it pretty well: https://hyprland.org/
Does Hyperland support scrolling tiling?
That seems to be the new hotness in tiling WMs.
Scrolling tiling is a niche not supported by hyprland.
Personally I'm not yet sure whether I like scrolling tiling. It might be really interesting for single monitor setups, but I feel a dynamic tiler is better for a multi monitor setup. With multiple screens, available space isn't an issue and not having all windows visible or on another workspace feels like a disadvantage.
But maybe I just have to get accustomed to niri. The concept is great. Especially on tablets it might be really useful.
Other than niri (which is great) what is there?
too bad the developers are pretty toxic and refuse to moderate their discord
Agreed. Their discord has been full of inconsiderate jokes and memes for a long time. It's not untypical of many edgy internet communities but it being directly associated with a project isn't a good look.
I definitely wouldn't want to get involved with such a project, altough it is a good piece of software and I don't see their behaviour influencing the popularity of hyprland.
My problem with that is that Vaxry is openly in support of the open racism and transphobia in the discord, and with him also being the lead dev I worry it might possibly affect the development at some point
Yes, with Vaxry being banned from contributing to wlroots, hyprland development won't get easier. At the same time I'd say wlroots and hyprland are largely feature complete, so not being able to contribute might not have a large impact on hyprland.
@Chewy7324 I'm sorry but I don't give two shits about Hyprland. I am happy enough with X11, though I wouldn't mind Wayland once I switch to all AMD. But hyprland is a strict no. Until their entire team publicly apologise for being pathetic juvenile delinquents masquerading as adults, I ain't touching their shit.
Hyprland and sway are the most feature complete tiling compositors I've tried. But since I strongly prefer dynamic tiling, there's not much of a choice. River tiling is the best in my opinion. Sadly it doesn't support moving workspaces between monitors, as each monitor has its own set of workspaces, which is a deal breaker to me.
In general I strongly prefer Wayland over X11, as I've found Sway to be a better experience than i3 + picom for many years (not having to disable the compositor while gaming, better multi monitor support, etc), but having to switch to wayland-native tools is necessary coming from X11 wm's. For DE's that's not an issue.
Huge thanks to Vaxry and all contributors, Hyprland is great!
I've been tinkering with it lately and really like it as a shiny alternative. Might switch to my primary if I can get some real tinker time. Having a young family makes it hard to have hobbies!
Definitely a friendlier and more intuitive option for newcomers than something like sway. I've been thinking about sway though because static layouts would play nicer with my ultra wide.
Dynamic tilers don't really consider evenly spitting apps into thirds or a window automatically taking three fifths while stacking two others or combinations of the two.
Space is definitely a premium on a 2560x1080 screen.
Ooh, I moved to hyprland a few months ago and fell in love, but sway will give me static layouts? My singular gripe with hyprland is I want to keep my RDP app fixed to a size and never resized for anything, because when that window resizes inadvertently, I have to MFA half a dozen connections. I mostly like the dynamic tiling, but I'd like to fix one window on one workspace and never have it resize.
Have you tried window rules to make RDP automatically spawn onto a different workspace? Or you can set it to float and keep aspect ratio with window rules and maybe with minimum size so it doesn't get too small.
I haven't played with pseudo tiling, by default it's
super+pI think it keeps aspect ratio and size but I haven't messed with it that much. If pseudo works you can set that as a window rules probably with size.I think it's called manual wm, my bad. I think there's a way to define a layout for arranging the windows in a certain way. Regardless you tell it to either vertically or horizontally split the currently focused window when you spawn a new window.
There might even be a way to define how a dynamic wm extension arranged windows by creating a pattern or set of rules. When I have more free time I want to play with it on my laptop because they just don't want to bother with Nvidia like Hyperland has.
Edit: now I wanna play with window rules and find a solution to your RDP problem.
Can you go in more about the sway comparison... I used sway for a few months and miss it a bit but touchegg is really hard to let go of. But I've been eyeing hyprland
I'm probably not the best source for that, sorry. I've heard about this or than on sway but I haven't really been able to use sway until recently because my desktop has Nvidia. (I have a laptop now)
But I've heard Hyperland being compared to awesomewm but with fancy animations and quality of life changes you probably wouldn't find in any other wayland wm.
There's better window capture where you can focus on individual apps, there's the ability to pass hotkeys to x11 apps by adding it to the config, there's whatever the latest feature wlroots has before it is included in the release, etc..
You might be able to install it along side sway and use all the same software bar the config file. You could probably do
foo -c /point/to/different/configin most apps to keep things separate and set up a script to kill xdg-portal-wlroots and start xdg-portal-hyprland. Or you could just use portal-wlroots they are almost one to one minus the screen capture tricks.The documentation is top notch so it should be easy to get into. If your system has to be rock solid stable I'd be weary because the project moves at a breakneck speed and is largely done by one guy with help but I haven't had any issues so far. If touchegg supports sway it should support hyprland because they're both based on wlroots.
A really solid option, in my experience. I'd even call it stable if they weren't mangling the config from time to time.
What does it do that sway doesn't?
I remember someone talking about animation but I never really look into it.
Just take a look at the video on the main page, it demonstrates it pretty well: https://hyprland.org/
Does Hyperland support scrolling tiling?
That seems to be the new hotness in tiling WMs.
Scrolling tiling is a niche not supported by hyprland.
Personally I'm not yet sure whether I like scrolling tiling. It might be really interesting for single monitor setups, but I feel a dynamic tiler is better for a multi monitor setup. With multiple screens, available space isn't an issue and not having all windows visible or on another workspace feels like a disadvantage.
But maybe I just have to get accustomed to niri. The concept is great. Especially on tablets it might be really useful.
Other than niri (which is great) what is there?
too bad the developers are pretty toxic and refuse to moderate their discord
Agreed. Their discord has been full of inconsiderate jokes and memes for a long time. It's not untypical of many edgy internet communities but it being directly associated with a project isn't a good look.
I definitely wouldn't want to get involved with such a project, altough it is a good piece of software and I don't see their behaviour influencing the popularity of hyprland.
My problem with that is that Vaxry is openly in support of the open racism and transphobia in the discord, and with him also being the lead dev I worry it might possibly affect the development at some point
Yes, with Vaxry being banned from contributing to wlroots, hyprland development won't get easier. At the same time I'd say wlroots and hyprland are largely feature complete, so not being able to contribute might not have a large impact on hyprland.
@Chewy7324 I'm sorry but I don't give two shits about Hyprland. I am happy enough with X11, though I wouldn't mind Wayland once I switch to all AMD. But hyprland is a strict no. Until their entire team publicly apologise for being pathetic juvenile delinquents masquerading as adults, I ain't touching their shit.
Hyprland and sway are the most feature complete tiling compositors I've tried. But since I strongly prefer dynamic tiling, there's not much of a choice. River tiling is the best in my opinion. Sadly it doesn't support moving workspaces between monitors, as each monitor has its own set of workspaces, which is a deal breaker to me.
In general I strongly prefer Wayland over X11, as I've found Sway to be a better experience than i3 + picom for many years (not having to disable the compositor while gaming, better multi monitor support, etc), but having to switch to wayland-native tools is necessary coming from X11 wm's. For DE's that's not an issue.