I can't stand the updates anymore

Grogon@lemmy.world to Android@lemmy.world – 33 points –

I'm at a point in life I get a phone, set it up and live my life.

Everytime I get updates for my Samsung phone my menu is wack and I gotta click through thousand new commands and options that I will never use in my life.

Please just give me updates for my security and no more features.

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Huh, I've always updated and there's usually not much change. There are some minor ones but they don't affect my day-to-day. The biggest ones the major version changes, but even then it's usually a new font or some minor display tweak more than anything. I haven't felt like it's been disruptive.

The new AI rollout hasn't been so kind to those who wanna just update and go about our day. I know for me the update alone took 10m then another 10 to go through the tutorial for each of the new features. The security updates aren't bad along with minor tweets to some features but there's times where they add something and it moves something in the drop down menu.

Ah, right, I don't have AI on my phones. Can't you just ignore them though?

I like getting new features 🤷

And I like it when a software update makes my device feel new.

Just join the not updating gang.

^this^ ^isn't^ ^my^ ^primary^ ^phone^ ^don't^ ^actually^ ^do^ ^that^

I'm still on Android 9. My phone can be upgraded, I refuse because it fucks shit up.

Running an un-updated OS is really stupid. Bragging about it is even worse.

Really?

Show me evidence of your claim.

Also, cute personal insult there. Grow up.

I've got a metric for you: I've lost hundreds/thousands of hours to updates on numerous systems throughout my 35+ year career.

I've never once lost time or data to a hack.

There are millions of systems still running windows 95 for hardware that can't use anything newer (think CNC machines). Are those admins "stupid" for not upgrading? Or maybe, becuase they know their risk model, they've addressed the risks properly, through layering?

So who's stupid here?

You want me to prove to you that not applying security updates is stupid?

Also, those systems running 95 don't connect to the internet. Phones do.

There are millions of systems still running windows 95 for hardware that can't use anything newer (think CNC machines).

These are never connected to the internet though. Also, these aren't personal devices that store sensitive information, they're just used for one specific task (and without internet connection), which is fine.

Yup. Android 10 broke too much shit on this phone so I ain't upgrading to anything else. Plus the primary reason I use this phone will be broken on later versions of Android so that's a no go.

Have you looked into custom ROMs? I feel like that's usually how they function.

Or even just something closer to AOSP. I've been happy with Pixels for a while. No weird vendor shit.

Especially with a Samsung phone. I feel like I recall seeing jokes several years ago about how much bloatware they have.

I imagine it's gotten better but I wonder by how much

Check out GrapheneOS! It's built from AOSP with some privacy and security improvements, no change in user experience though. It also removes all the bloated Google crap, as well as the spyware. It's the only mobile OS I would use nowadays.

samsungs are notorious for doing stuff like this and beong generally bad at software.

the closer you are to AOSP, the less you will have to deal with such things.

Huh? I've been using Samsung since the s5 and I've literally never had this happen outside of major OS upgrades. And even those don't really change much.

had plenty of issues with the a series

I think you remember something that is 15 years old. Samsungs are very good now and even though I don't use the default launcher (OneUI), when I used it it didn't seem clunky or anything. And yes, they put a lot of junk apps by default, but you can uninstall most of them right off the bat and never care.

I had an unlocked S20, didn't come with Facebook or any extra bloat besides the Samsung duo apps, uninstalled a couple of them myself and updates were just a restart and it works similar to one plus phones I've had. My wife got an S23 from our carrier and hers came with carrier apps, McAfee security, Facebook, etc and every update she got ads and all kinds of weird popups. I think the carrier devices are giving the bad rap

for reference, mine is from 2018

ive seen a bunch of issues on a 2021 samsung too

This is why I don't use Samsung. I've used Sony Xperia and Google Pixel for years now and both are waaaay better in terms of shitty bloatware.

This is why I don't update until I need to reset, or get a new phone.