Lemmyshitpost community closed until further notice
Hello everyone,
We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.
We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won't help us now.
Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.
Edit: @Striker@lemmy.world the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn't his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.
But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what's next very soon.
Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It's been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn't the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.
I assume you've contacted the FBI, but if not PLEASE DO.
lemmy.world is based in Finland.
Yes, the Finnish Bureau of Investigation
The Finnish Bureau of Icecoldmotherfuckers
Gold!
They're the ones that can finish the job.
In that case probably Europol or the Finnish police/cybersecurity agency or something?
Didn't realize that. Thanks.
Most people in the world don't live in that one very specific country, it's somewhat presumptuous to assume they do, and I'm a bit tired of those assumptions only ever coming from people from a very specific place.
I put up with it for a long while without saying anything, but it's been 15 years and they're doing it more now than ever. I'm kinda... worn down now.
Can't we all just accept that the world is vast and amazing, and exists beyond our own borders? :-(
It’s not that deep
So can I count on you to make sure every comment you make on social media doesn't incorrectly reference the wrong country, culture, or generally get something wrong?
Y'all act like Americans just get up in the morning and say "to hell with it, everywhere is 'Merica." The person just tried to help; hell they might not even be an American and just assumed (at least) one of the site admins is.
The pure unnecessary drama over what's easily a simple mistake is ridiculous. I can't even comprehend why you even care? And beyond that, why not just tell this person "well actually, it's X they should call because Y"?
Like this good egg dig ... https://sh.itjust.works/comment/2716913
Yes. Everywhere I go Americans (and us Dutch) act like the entire world is theirs. (but I'm American! Or in case of us Dutch: ik zit hier en ik moet bier. En die bbq gaat niet uit. En techno moet hard.)
I more or less concur with the other guy. He said it in a shitty way though.
Problem is, there is no "world police". ('obligatory: ' MURICA FUCK YEAH!)
Calling the FBI, Essex police department, Clouseau's Surete or even interpol will do jack shit in 99% of these cases because of the simple fact they don't have any jurisdiction. Add to that they couldn't care less because narcotics and gang violence are bigger problems and you end up with reality: it will only cost time and solve nothing. Why? Because IT crimes are hard and often times pricey to investigate with very little returns. (yeeeh, we arrested a 14 year old pimply faced youth, a minor so he will be out in 2 days with a slap on the wrist)
And finally: The FBI does not have global reach. This is a global platform.
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices
The FBI work hand in hand with the CIA, who can and do set up black sites all over the world for enhanced interrogation and extrajudicial detention, and work extremely closely with the Five Eyes and NATO. I'd call that global reach.
Wat betekent moet bier of moet hard?
In this context:
"ik moet bier" - I need beer/I must have beer (literally "I must beer")
"techno moet hard" - Techno (music) must (go) hard.
I vaguelly recognize this whole thing as a dutch saying. (Not dutch myself)
The pleasant wordplay in that saying is because "moet" there is used with two slightly different meanings, as "having need" and as "must".
Yeah I've just not seen moet alone like that. I like it lol.
Well, the first form is a pretty common variant for human basic needs if you want to make it sound desperate in a funny way (for example, "ik moet voed" rather than "ik moet eten") but the second whilst making sense is not common and was probably chosen for literally reasons (whilst not 100% sure, I think these might be lyrics from a dutch song).
The FBI does work with Interpol, and every national police agency the US is friendly with.
And most of the big tech companies are based where? And most of the big hosting services are based where? So, assuming contacting the US authorities makes sense I don't know where lemmy.world is doing their hosting, but since most of the big providers are based in the US, and that would make it US jurisdiction, it isn't an unreasonable assumption.
It's not a crazy leap of faith to assume Lemmy demographics are similar to reddit demographics, where the USA makes up the plurality by a huge margin https://www.statista.com/statistics/325144/reddit-global-active-user-distribution/
a lot of the fediverse is rooted in the EU so I'm not entirely sure the demographics are 1:1 with reddit.
They* should contact Europol.
they should contact the local authorities thats the easiest probably
Might be.
It's always fun to see Americans assume the Internett is all American as well.
Threads on this issue have been posted both on Reddit and on Lemmy before, and despite Americans protesting that they don't mean it or they don't think that way, some people do actually say that in the comments. They assume everyone is American because "the internet is American" and "the website is American".
What the fuck is "the bay area"?
I assume that's where the pirates are.
The San Francisco Bay area, aka Silicone Valley, aka the BIRTHPLACE of computers. DARPA (US Military), created the internet, but when it was opened to public, again it was "The Bay Area" that made it usable to the world.
It has a little bit of importance to computing.
The point wasn't that it's not important, it's that it's so generic in name as to mean nothing to many outside of the US. The reason I mentioned it is because I have had to Google which bay area Americans refer to.
Consider me an alien confused about which moon you're talking about when you say 'the moon'
Fair point. Yes Americans are ego centric in most cases. In my original comment that got everyone panties in bunch, was because most.of the tech companies and web hosting sites are in the US, or based here, giving US law enforcement jurisdiction. I didn't know where lemmy.world.was based until someone in this thread told me.
They probably haven't. Also they won't do anything as long as you aren't a large cooperation. Even if you are they might not do anything. See the Epic Games hack in the early 2000s