Is lemmy.ml turn into authoritarian?

Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 376 points –

I just realised, I can't post anything on lemmy.ml

So, I checked https://lemmy.ml/modlog, there's a new moderator.

All posts and comments talking about China, Jinping, Russia, and Putin have been deleted and users banned

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Those of us who want to freely discuss geopolitics without fear of getting banned care.

Then do it from a different instance? Who cares what they do on one specific instance? Fuck them and all, but it’s their instance. Complaining about it flies in the face of what lemmy is entirely about.

Or do I not understand the entire point of lemmy?

Totally transferring to another instance and losing your post history is kind of a shitty solution when they could just not have authoritarian moderators instead. They're also Lemmy's developers.

You can always observe and research the instance you're about to create an account on to protect yourself from unpleasant surprises.

This is not a new development for lemmy.ml.

I joined back in June and lemmy.ml was absolutely doing all of this shit back then. Anything even mildly critical of China was banned for "orientalism." They've never been shy about the fact that their instance is run by tankies.

Users don't even need to leave lemmy.ml, they can just use their lemmy.ml account and post elsewhere.

Totally transferring to another instance and losing your post history is kind of a shitty solution

You don't have to do that, though. You can just post on a different instance from your normal account.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe instance admins can remove your content that's posted to another instance.

They cannot. But, if you created a community on your instance it must align to the instance rules and admin can moderate it (does matter who posts there).

The second, smaller, issue people will associate you a bit with the instance you selected for your account (even if it was by chance).

And?

And I just explained it. Do you want it in Spanish or something?

I fail to see the problem after I explained that you’re free to post elsewhere. I too have a sign-in with them. But because of their dumb shit- I left and don’t post from there anymore.

That’s how lemmy works. That’s the entire point of it.

You're free to abandon your account and they're free to not hire authoritarian moderators. Why should it be on you and not them?

ROFL! So… to summarize, you think the moderators who put their own time, effort, and money into running an instance….

… are entirely beheld to a random tool that doesn’t like how things are run?

It’s not on them because they own the instance. If you don’t like it, fuck all the way off elsewhere. It’s what I did. Because I get how it works.

If I go to a mechanic and they put Nazi literature in my car, I have a couple of options. One would be to just switch to another mechanic and not say anything. The other would be to let everyone know about the car place that puts Nazi literature in your car to shame them into firing whoever it was that did it.

You would take option one. I consider that cowardly.

My god, you’re not very bright, are you?

For starters, you PAY a mechanic. So if they put “Nazi literature” in your car, yeah, you’d have a big problem with them and deservedly so-

How much did you pay to use their server?

Also- it’s THEIR server. Not YOUR CAR.

Additionally, you’re VERY bad at analogies. Please learn how to compare to similar things before you attempt to try one again.

Stopped reading at the insult. Not interested in trading insults.

And before you claim I called you a coward, I did not. I said you would take the cowardly option in the case I was mentioning.

I am not interested in Reddit behavior. You can either talk to me like you would if we were face to face, where you know you would not be hurling insults, or I can just block you. Your choice.

If you don’t want to have your intelligence insulted, try showing some. Your analogy was horribly wrong and your entire point flies in the face of why lemmy was designed to be the way it is.

And you have the nerve to complain about Reddit behavior? Dude, what you’re suggesting is EXACTLY why people left Reddit. You’re trying to strongarm someone into taking what they spent their time and effort on and force them to make it the way YOU want it to be.

Either get your head out of your ass, or go make your own instance where you can rule it exactly as you want it to be.

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Dude, you sound like an absolute fool of a tool.

Learn how to have an adult conversation without insults. Maybe look up ad hominem attacks and why people do them. It's because they have weak arguments so they attack the person instead. Just. Like. You.

Lol except I'm not even arguing with you, so there is no stance or point to speak on at all, I'm just making an observation. Holy hell, if you fell that flat on your face with this I can't even begin to imagine how you got such a big ego.

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who cares?

Those of us who want to freely discuss geopolitics without fear of getting banned care.

Then do it from a different instance?

To move to another instance you have to be aware of the issue. To be aware of the issue you have to care about it.

it’s their instance. Complaining about it flies in the face of what lemmy is entirely about.

Or do I not understand the entire point of lemmy?

Maybe just one half. True, one half is that every instance can do what it wants.

The other half is, that users can do what they want. In order to be able to do what they want, they need information about instances.

People speaking up about what many people would consider frown-worthy instance behaviour is an important part of that process.

We are free to warn each other.

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There are multiple world politics communities and multiple other news/politics communities that also discuss world politics. One community going ban happy is irrelevant.

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