didnt they also offer people to leave and then bombed the route they were told to take?
Russia did this to Ukrainian kids also.
Hit the refugees directly and ambulance evacuation convoys.
Are you referring to the video of the car en route to Egypt blowing up? If so, that wasn't Israel. The only explosives in range would be missiles or artillery, which are much larger than the blast captured.
The public currently doesn't know what caused the explosion. Some say it was fuel igniting, others say there was an IED either on the road or inside the car.
Israel bombed refugee camps, targeted ambulance, and killed press personnel so yeah
Israel also publicly acknowledged they bombed an ambulance convoy, they claim the ambulances were used to transport Hamas militia.
You can choose to believe or disbelieve them on their motivations (I am very skeptical, personally), but these aren't unsubstantiated claims. These are publicly acknowledged strikes.
And with that many bombs flying around, so many buildings levelled, of course there's going to be journalists around the place getting hit.
Israel also publicly acknowledged they bombed an ambulance convoy, they claim the ambulances were used to transport Hamas militia.
The source is hamas themselves--Not very reputable, as reputable as the IDF saying they didn't do it.
According to the IDF, militias inside of Gaza are indeed using Ambulances and medical gear to disguise themselves. However, as previously mentioned--not very impartial.
Both parties killed innocent civilians. And both parties wants this war to keep going.
By both I mean Hamas and Israel.
Iran said yesterday that they’ll keep a front with Israel. And Israel have no intention to stop the violence until they occupy Gaza and West Bank.
That is one of my sources, yes.
Ok, great, we've gone from "Where's the evidence?" to "Israel is justified doing those things".
I don't think anybody outside the Hamas command structure or the IDF command structure can conclusively and unequivocally claim they know whether these strikes were or were not justified, it all comes down to which sources you believe.
I'm glad we've made progress though and you acknowledge that these things happened.
You're mistaken if you think that's justification--No, it's an explanation.
What? Do you want me to post a disclaimer that Israel is evil every post or something? Hope you do the same~
"Do you have evidence"
"No wait I don't mean actual evidence, stop. That I'm here to spread IDF propaganda"
"Oh wow I can really make anyone say anything if I make up what they say"
Jesus Christ look around it’s been everywhere
Christ doesn’t come into the picture there.
I see a lot of propaganda.
Clearly
yes, thanks to social media the entire world can see it now. that’s why they were cutting off internet service - because the favorable media isn’t the only game in town anymore to tell everyone “poor israel” while ignoring Israels atrocities.
what do you mean now? it's been documented for decades my dude
right, and you had to look for it. the mainstream media wasn’t interested in showing that side of things. it’s always “israel is under attack”
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
**** And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
If so, that wasn't Israel.
The public currently doesn't know what caused the explosion.
??
It helps to read between the quotes.
The only explosives in range would be missiles or artillery, which are much larger than the blast captured.
Unfortunately, I can't find the original source material, however I can link you to a video from a Rumble podcast showcasing the explosion I'm referencing. However, I did find this article, which contains much more gratuitous content, but is still on the topic of attacking refugees--The article notes that experts are unable to conclude what kind of blast it was.
Just trust me bro the explosion was too small so it couldn't have been an IDF attack
if i was the IDF and I wanted to kill civilians without any witnesses, I'd use my largest and most destructive bomb to really make sure no one captures it on film.
but that's if I was evil.
Right, and then the whole world will go: "I wonder who could have possibly done this".
You wouldn't use the same armaments that your enemy is using? If I were evil, I would do my best to make it look like my enemy is the one who is killing civilians. It's so common that there's actually a name for it
didnt they also offer people to leave and then bombed the route they were told to take?
Russia did this to Ukrainian kids also.
Hit the refugees directly and ambulance evacuation convoys.
Are you referring to the video of the car en route to Egypt blowing up? If so, that wasn't Israel. The only explosives in range would be missiles or artillery, which are much larger than the blast captured.
The public currently doesn't know what caused the explosion. Some say it was fuel igniting, others say there was an IED either on the road or inside the car.
Israel bombed refugee camps, targeted ambulance, and killed press personnel so yeah
Do you have proof of this?
The refugee camp bombing was widely reported and Israel publicly said it was them. Israel said the dozens of civilians killed were worth it to kill a Hamas commander.
Israel also publicly acknowledged they bombed an ambulance convoy, they claim the ambulances were used to transport Hamas militia.
You can choose to believe or disbelieve them on their motivations (I am very skeptical, personally), but these aren't unsubstantiated claims. These are publicly acknowledged strikes.
And with that many bombs flying around, so many buildings levelled, of course there's going to be journalists around the place getting hit.
Do you have any source better than the Guardian? They're not exactly reputable with ongoing conflicts.
The source is hamas themselves--Not very reputable, as reputable as the IDF saying they didn't do it.
According to the IDF, militias inside of Gaza are indeed using Ambulances and medical gear to disguise themselves. However, as previously mentioned--not very impartial.
So instead, here's footage showing a medic running to a downed militant, just to take the rifle to another militant while leaving the downed militant. Both militants are in civilian clothing.
While disputed, in 2014, Amnesty International claims that the hospital is being used as a Hamas base. It's worth noting that the Hospital itself was originally a military barracks.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-admits-airstrike-on-ambulance-near-hospital-that-witnesses-say-killed-and-wounded-dozens/vi-AA1jmXH7
Both parties killed innocent civilians. And both parties wants this war to keep going.
By both I mean Hamas and Israel.
Iran said yesterday that they’ll keep a front with Israel. And Israel have no intention to stop the violence until they occupy Gaza and West Bank.
That is one of my sources, yes.
Ok, great, we've gone from "Where's the evidence?" to "Israel is justified doing those things".
I don't think anybody outside the Hamas command structure or the IDF command structure can conclusively and unequivocally claim they know whether these strikes were or were not justified, it all comes down to which sources you believe.
I'm glad we've made progress though and you acknowledge that these things happened.
You're mistaken if you think that's justification--No, it's an explanation.
What? Do you want me to post a disclaimer that Israel is evil every post or something? Hope you do the same~
"Do you have evidence"
"No wait I don't mean actual evidence, stop. That I'm here to spread IDF propaganda"
"Oh wow I can really make anyone say anything if I make up what they say"
Jesus Christ look around it’s been everywhere
Christ doesn’t come into the picture there.
I see a lot of propaganda.
Clearly
yes, thanks to social media the entire world can see it now. that’s why they were cutting off internet service - because the favorable media isn’t the only game in town anymore to tell everyone “poor israel” while ignoring Israels atrocities.
what do you mean now? it's been documented for decades my dude
right, and you had to look for it. the mainstream media wasn’t interested in showing that side of things. it’s always “israel is under attack”
??
It helps to read between the quotes.
Would love to read on that source tq
Here are some destructive payloads of missiles and artillery
Unfortunately, I can't find the original source material, however I can link you to a video from a Rumble podcast showcasing the explosion I'm referencing. However, I did find this article, which contains much more gratuitous content, but is still on the topic of attacking refugees--The article notes that experts are unable to conclude what kind of blast it was.
Just trust me bro the explosion was too small so it couldn't have been an IDF attack
if i was the IDF and I wanted to kill civilians without any witnesses, I'd use my largest and most destructive bomb to really make sure no one captures it on film.
but that's if I was evil.
Right, and then the whole world will go: "I wonder who could have possibly done this".
You wouldn't use the same armaments that your enemy is using? If I were evil, I would do my best to make it look like my enemy is the one who is killing civilians. It's so common that there's actually a name for it
I remember the BBC one, it's pretty much inconclusive on who and what done it, and there's no more news on this particular case iirc.