Edit: This is the manual, the company made. The engineers wrote the specifications. It says right there not to grab it. It doesn't matter what people use it for. It was factually not designed to grab during play. This is a first hand example of facts not meaning shit to the human species.
Boy you couldn't be wronger here, pretty much every perfect attack champion plays like this because it's an unfair advantage. We shamed these people at our arcade but it doesn't stop them from setting the highest scores no matter how stupid it looks. Dancing stage fixes this problem well enough.
You can say that but I grew up in Gameworks. The people who grabbed the bar were inexperienced. If you played at home with the matt in between sessions you didn't need the bar. We used to run town on the fools tied to the machine and not free to move their feet. But all the more to ya I guess.
I was there, Gandalf. You were a weak ass bitch if you held onto the bars. Kids were brutal. I'll die on this hill cause it was true and I lived it. Even if its not true anymore.
It literally says verbatim: "please do not lean or hang on the handrail"
LEAN or HANG. Not saying the guy isn't doing that, but it says nothing about just grabbing it? You can grab it just fine.
Dude, what do you do when you grab it? You usually follow the grab with your weight. Nobody is just holding it shyly like their first date at the movies. They're putting their weight on it so they don't slide off-axis to the dance pad arrows. The intended use doesn't matter anyway, because this was a sign of a disrespectful player. If you did this while up against someone else you were a dirty player. Thats the truth. Thats why this comment on the chastity belt is funny.
And why exactly is it considered "dirty" to begin with? Because its EFFECTIVE. This is what you do to get an advantage, like someone already said.
I bet you're a spinner at foosball as well.
Because it shows you don't have the coordination to stay on the mat....
It has absolutely nothing to do with coordination in the slightest, wtf are you on about?
By offloading some of your weight even if only a little, you can move your feet faster. This is a fact for everyone even IF you're already good at DDR as is.
Look, I pointed to the manual. You can interpret that with everyone else however you want. I was originally trying to say the post was making fun of people holding the bar, thats it.
Yeah, well, there's also a warning label on Q-tips to not stick em in your ear canal.
I stopped using q tips and had so much wax buildup that I could barely hear out of my ear. Was a terrible week or so before I finally got it cleared with a softener and water administered through a flared syringe. I went right back to using q tips as I had for decades before. All it takes is a bit of sweeping at the entrance of my ears for me to avoid that crazy buildup, so it's well worth it.
I have a gentle ear cleaning tool that is designed to use warm water to clean your inner ear, and then you clean the outer area with a q-tip. They're great tools, just not for your inner ear. If your ears aren't prone to infection I highly recommend a water cleaning device for your ears.
It's for holding onto while playing, there's literally stickers on the machine saying to do it. The current machines even advise it during the health/safety prompts. Current songs are charted specifically with the bar in mind. This isn't 2001 anymore. This guy has absolutely zero fuckin idea what he's talking about.
Okay, I just linked the fucken manuals for the machines. Sticker 7, do not hold.
First time hearing about liability?
Sometimes companies will say things that they don't even believe themselves, just to protect themselves from the law.
It's called LI - A - BIL - I -TY
That hardly proves the intended purpose. Either way, early 2000's, if you held onto that during play you were weak.
I have no idea, but its not for holding onto while playing. You're more likely to twist your joints that way. Maybe it stops you from backing off the machine on accident?
There must be a legal point where something is so obviously meant for a use that no amount of “not meant to be used for this super obvious purpose” can no longer protect a company, right?
My toaster oven's manual says I have to power it down, clean out the crumb tray, and unplug it after every use or risk starting a fire. After every use. That's literally what it says. This is what you get when you give the lawyers free rein over the technical writing. It's insanity.
If you like to dance around, while grasping something that is immovable. Go for it. You're gonna hurt yourself like I watched tweens do all throughout the 00's at Gameworks. The bar was not made to grab.
Found the 2018 East Regional DDR runner up.
Yep, but it was 2004.
Somebody clearly hasn't played dance games since 2004. The old bar-vs-no bar argument has since been shored up with "just play the damn game." Regardless of original intention for the bar, it's even highly suggested/nearly required for high-level play anymore.
I haven't actually read machine manuals for recent releases, but does DDR Ace/SMX/Pump Phoenix still outright state not to lean on the bar?
Since Gameworks closed down in Phoenix I haven't been to tilt studio to check. The only DDR machine that I know of by me is in a Main Event. I'll have to check it out. I doubt it has the warning to not lean on the bar. I stated somewhere in this chain that it doesn't matter anymore. But back in the day it was a big deal. Which is what I interpreted this meme as meaning.
Back in the day - it was certainly quite the deal! I remember that even Pump Speed division at WPF would DQ players for so much as touching the bar. In retrospect, it was such an odd thing for us all to be so particular about - maybe just the newness of the game and maturity of chart design?
You may be interested to know that while bar play has become the norm, some players are still recognized for choosing no bar play at very high levels.
Very interesting! I swore I wasn't insane and it was a big deal at one point. Thank you for the shared history! It is quite the silly thing now. But boy, I remember quitting a few times when an opponent would start the match, and then quickly reposition to grab the bar as the music started.
Ah that video was a good bridge of nostalgia and gaming interests. These machines have come a long way, and at the same time remained the same.
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90% of the time when I've seen someone going ape shit in DDR they're standing exactly like this
It says on the arcade machine not to hold onto that rail. Page 9, sticker 7. https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1756526/Konami-Dance-Dance-Revolution.html?page=9#manual. Most people who did this received injuries, not high scores.
Edit: This is the manual, the company made. The engineers wrote the specifications. It says right there not to grab it. It doesn't matter what people use it for. It was factually not designed to grab during play. This is a first hand example of facts not meaning shit to the human species.
Boy you couldn't be wronger here, pretty much every perfect attack champion plays like this because it's an unfair advantage. We shamed these people at our arcade but it doesn't stop them from setting the highest scores no matter how stupid it looks. Dancing stage fixes this problem well enough.
You can say that but I grew up in Gameworks. The people who grabbed the bar were inexperienced. If you played at home with the matt in between sessions you didn't need the bar. We used to run town on the fools tied to the machine and not free to move their feet. But all the more to ya I guess.
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Psh, he only got a C. Amateur.
I was there, Gandalf. You were a weak ass bitch if you held onto the bars. Kids were brutal. I'll die on this hill cause it was true and I lived it. Even if its not true anymore.
It literally says verbatim: "please do not lean or hang on the handrail"
LEAN or HANG. Not saying the guy isn't doing that, but it says nothing about just grabbing it? You can grab it just fine.
Dude, what do you do when you grab it? You usually follow the grab with your weight. Nobody is just holding it shyly like their first date at the movies. They're putting their weight on it so they don't slide off-axis to the dance pad arrows. The intended use doesn't matter anyway, because this was a sign of a disrespectful player. If you did this while up against someone else you were a dirty player. Thats the truth. Thats why this comment on the chastity belt is funny.
And why exactly is it considered "dirty" to begin with? Because its EFFECTIVE. This is what you do to get an advantage, like someone already said.
I bet you're a spinner at foosball as well.
Because it shows you don't have the coordination to stay on the mat....
It has absolutely nothing to do with coordination in the slightest, wtf are you on about?
By offloading some of your weight even if only a little, you can move your feet faster. This is a fact for everyone even IF you're already good at DDR as is.
Look, I pointed to the manual. You can interpret that with everyone else however you want. I was originally trying to say the post was making fun of people holding the bar, thats it.
Yeah, well, there's also a warning label on Q-tips to not stick em in your ear canal.
You also shouldn't do that. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/why-you-really-truly-should-not-put-q-tips-your-ears. Thats just proven bad. Unlike my losing battle elsewhere. Which, trust me, it was a big deal if you held on. Everyone can argue it. But all I'm seein' is a bunch of bar grabbers.
I stopped using q tips and had so much wax buildup that I could barely hear out of my ear. Was a terrible week or so before I finally got it cleared with a softener and water administered through a flared syringe. I went right back to using q tips as I had for decades before. All it takes is a bit of sweeping at the entrance of my ears for me to avoid that crazy buildup, so it's well worth it.
I have a gentle ear cleaning tool that is designed to use warm water to clean your inner ear, and then you clean the outer area with a q-tip. They're great tools, just not for your inner ear. If your ears aren't prone to infection I highly recommend a water cleaning device for your ears.
Uh, then wtf is its intended purpose?
It's for holding onto while playing, there's literally stickers on the machine saying to do it. The current machines even advise it during the health/safety prompts. Current songs are charted specifically with the bar in mind. This isn't 2001 anymore. This guy has absolutely zero fuckin idea what he's talking about.
Okay, I just linked the fucken manuals for the machines. Sticker 7, do not hold.
First time hearing about liability?
Sometimes companies will say things that they don't even believe themselves, just to protect themselves from the law.
It's called LI - A - BIL - I -TY
That hardly proves the intended purpose. Either way, early 2000's, if you held onto that during play you were weak.
I have no idea, but its not for holding onto while playing. You're more likely to twist your joints that way. Maybe it stops you from backing off the machine on accident?
There must be a legal point where something is so obviously meant for a use that no amount of “not meant to be used for this super obvious purpose” can no longer protect a company, right?
My toaster oven's manual says I have to power it down, clean out the crumb tray, and unplug it after every use or risk starting a fire. After every use. That's literally what it says. This is what you get when you give the lawyers free rein over the technical writing. It's insanity.
If you like to dance around, while grasping something that is immovable. Go for it. You're gonna hurt yourself like I watched tweens do all throughout the 00's at Gameworks. The bar was not made to grab.
Found the 2018 East Regional DDR runner up.
Yep, but it was 2004.
Somebody clearly hasn't played dance games since 2004. The old bar-vs-no bar argument has since been shored up with "just play the damn game." Regardless of original intention for the bar, it's even highly suggested/nearly required for high-level play anymore.
I haven't actually read machine manuals for recent releases, but does DDR Ace/SMX/Pump Phoenix still outright state not to lean on the bar?
Since Gameworks closed down in Phoenix I haven't been to tilt studio to check. The only DDR machine that I know of by me is in a Main Event. I'll have to check it out. I doubt it has the warning to not lean on the bar. I stated somewhere in this chain that it doesn't matter anymore. But back in the day it was a big deal. Which is what I interpreted this meme as meaning.
Back in the day - it was certainly quite the deal! I remember that even Pump Speed division at WPF would DQ players for so much as touching the bar. In retrospect, it was such an odd thing for us all to be so particular about - maybe just the newness of the game and maturity of chart design?
You may be interested to know that while bar play has become the norm, some players are still recognized for choosing no bar play at very high levels.
Very interesting! I swore I wasn't insane and it was a big deal at one point. Thank you for the shared history! It is quite the silly thing now. But boy, I remember quitting a few times when an opponent would start the match, and then quickly reposition to grab the bar as the music started.
Ah that video was a good bridge of nostalgia and gaming interests. These machines have come a long way, and at the same time remained the same.
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It says "not to hang or lean on during play," not hold on to. You can hold onto it. Just don't lean or apply significant pressure onto it.