I wonder, is there any nation or entity the US doesn't fund?
Can't get played when you play all sides.
I always love how two nations genocide each other and every English speaking forum ends up with 'How dare the USA' lol.
It's like people who can do nothing but blame the parents on their child going onto murder everyone when sometimes your child is just shit lol. You absolve so much of their personal responsibility by blaming the son for fathers behavior.
People really just don't like the fact that people can and will do evil shit without much justification simply by the way their genetics and culture work.
Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?
holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.
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Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?
holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.
What kind of simple minded asinine take are you appeal to extreme'ing about?
Helicopter or hands-off parenting? The choice won't impact a kid as much as you think
Nature versus nurture is a long-standing debate in biology and society about the relative influence on human beings of their genetic inheritance (nature) and the environmental conditions of their development (nurture). The alliterative expression "nature and nurture" in English has been in use since at least the Elizabethan period[1] and goes back to medieval French.[2] The complementary combination of the two concepts is an ancient concept (Ancient Greek: ἁπό φύσεως καὶ εὐτροφίας).[3] Nature is what people think of as pre-wiring and is influenced by genetic inheritance and other biological factors. Nurture is generally taken as the influence of external factors after conception e.g. the product of exposure, experience and learning on an individual.
You weren't describing nature vs nurture. You were implying eugenics with your last statement.
Blankets there seems to have a knack for saying asinine things, then acting outraged and claiming the other person is an idiot when they call them out for saying them. I wouldn't engage; I'd block them but they're always good for a laugh.
Do you genuinely believe there are people out there who aren't born predisposed to violence? This is a well known fact and a reason we have prisons for people who are not able to be rehabilitated. There aren't nearly as many monsters out there as people think, but they're there.
People like serial killers are well known for having relatively normal upbringings but go on to become murderers/rapists. Some even come from loving, caring, and enthusiastic homes.
No amount of therapy is going to keep some poor pedophile's brain wired to find children attractive from finding that they're attractive. They get to live their entire cursed existence hating themselves even if they never hurt a single kid.
People give biology way too little credit for the monsters that society has to deal with. And as shown above, a lot of it isn't due to culture, how you were raised, or if you were loved. It's because you hit the genetic snake eyes and you don't have the little thing in the back of your brain that finds rape and murder repulsive.
Genetics doesn't absolve them of their guilt, but it's one piece of a puzzle that too few people give credit for. For the same reason why one kid can do coke once and never try it again, and another ends up having their life spiral out of control for a decade due to addiction.
Aight, supremacist.
I like how you don't mention what kind of supremacist lol. Human supremacy ftw!
That's one way to take it, sure. But we all have the ability to other (to distance other people in our minds from what it means to be a "person"), and from there we can do violence to those we've othered. It's a fairly universal human trait. Culture plays into who you might other as well.
Wouldn't genocide be an effort to kill all Palestinans everywhere, like the millions in other Arab states?
You know, instead of focusing on the elected government of Gaza (who still has 57%+ support amongst Gazan civilians), who targeted 1200+ civilians intentionally in one of the worst terroist attacks of recent memory?
Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
in whole or in part. Not that you care, just for anybody wondering what the Geneva convention says. Though people should not base their morality on law, even UN law.
Which is why Hamas who is intentionally co-locating (and the target of the attacks) in what would otherwise be protected targets is a war crime.
If Hamas was not using civilian shields and being aided by the majority of Gaza residents who support them, then absolutely it would be a war crime.
It's just that unlike many armchair legal scholars here, I'm aware that the intended terrorist targets make this a nonsense legal argument. Again, without Hamas there you'd be correct.
The convention isn't written in a vacuum. And misusing and diminishing the term genocide a bad idea.
being aided by the majority of Gaza residents who support them
"It's not genocide, but if it is they deserve it"
Fucking disgusting Nazi logic.
Stating a fact that's not convenient to your false narrative: "you're a Nazi". I realize there are people here who can not reason or be reasoned with---its sad.
Stating a fact that's not convenient to your false narrative
Which fact? That Gaza civilians deserve to be slaughtered because of their alleged support of Hamas?
Honestly who are you trying to convince here?
no, collective punishment by genocide is about as Nazi as you get, then again, no wonder you got upset at it, you don't even view "brown people" as human, they are all Terrorists, every Gaza Child is nothing but another terrorist, so why not kill them?
The genocide of Palestinians by Israel has been going on way longer than Hamas has existed.
I am no armchair legal scholar, I 've already argued against placing too much value on legality. It is you on the other hand who tries to minimize the severity of Israel's wrongdoings by arguing pseudo-legalistic semantics.
If the 1948 convention never existed, Israel's actions would be just as reprehensible.
Even if that was true, this is a bad faith argument anyhow: it's entirely possible to focus on the atrocities being committed by both sides. Rivermonster simply seems to enjoy regurgitating Israeli propaganda.
Except that still males them the official and elected government. It's weird that you want to ignore the facts. That you decide they're illegitimate just bc it doesn't fit your narrative is what's wrong.
They still have majority support amongst residents. If there were an election today, they'd dominate. Who do you think would win? The PLA, Fatah, and West Bank can't get rid of them fast enough. They want Hamas in there, too.
I will remind you that current official members of the Israeli government mocked a holocaust survivor by saying they deserved it, and if it were up to him, it would have been twice as bad.
Don't look to me to defend Likud. They're war criminals.
yet the brown ones are WAY worse, got it
Why are you so fixated on PoC, are you a racist? Plus, the way you call them "brown ones" is really not okay. Your rhetoric makes it sound pejorative and derogatory.
And you do know that there are both Israelis and Jews who are PoC, right? It doesn't sound like you know that.
sure, there are Israeli and Jews that PoC, good thing the Israeli government sterilizes them oh wait this sort of undermines your joke and points out that the Israeli government of Netanyahu does hate these people
You're deflecting by virtue-signaling. Lolololol
That's true, the elected government of Gaza is a horrible fascist state and they are just as bad as the monsters who are gunning down civilians in that region. However that doesn't mean the people of Gaza aren't worth saving and don't have value. I just don't understand why, when we're talking about a relatively small strip of land, the Palestinians can't have their own self-governed state, free from interference by Israel. Or is that just too much to ask for in this world.
And the USA funds the genocide
And acts as the good guys to boot.
I wonder, is there any nation or entity the US doesn't fund?
Can't get played when you play all sides.
I always love how two nations genocide each other and every English speaking forum ends up with 'How dare the USA' lol.
It's like people who can do nothing but blame the parents on their child going onto murder everyone when sometimes your child is just shit lol. You absolve so much of their personal responsibility by blaming the son for fathers behavior.
People really just don't like the fact that people can and will do evil shit without much justification simply by the way their genetics and culture work.
Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?
holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.
What kind of simple minded asinine take are you appeal to extreme'ing about?
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1193176710
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture
You weren't describing nature vs nurture. You were implying eugenics with your last statement.
Blankets there seems to have a knack for saying asinine things, then acting outraged and claiming the other person is an idiot when they call them out for saying them. I wouldn't engage; I'd block them but they're always good for a laugh.
Do you genuinely believe there are people out there who aren't born predisposed to violence? This is a well known fact and a reason we have prisons for people who are not able to be rehabilitated. There aren't nearly as many monsters out there as people think, but they're there.
People like serial killers are well known for having relatively normal upbringings but go on to become murderers/rapists. Some even come from loving, caring, and enthusiastic homes.
People can hand-wave genetic predisposition all they want, it doesn't make genetic heritability for a multitude of of disorders untrue. Nor does it change how you rolled poorly in the genetic lottery and now you're stuck with a male brain inside a female body.
No amount of therapy is going to keep some poor pedophile's brain wired to find children attractive from finding that they're attractive. They get to live their entire cursed existence hating themselves even if they never hurt a single kid.
People give biology way too little credit for the monsters that society has to deal with. And as shown above, a lot of it isn't due to culture, how you were raised, or if you were loved. It's because you hit the genetic snake eyes and you don't have the little thing in the back of your brain that finds rape and murder repulsive.
Genetics doesn't absolve them of their guilt, but it's one piece of a puzzle that too few people give credit for. For the same reason why one kid can do coke once and never try it again, and another ends up having their life spiral out of control for a decade due to addiction.
Aight, supremacist.
I like how you don't mention what kind of supremacist lol. Human supremacy ftw!
That's one way to take it, sure. But we all have the ability to other (to distance other people in our minds from what it means to be a "person"), and from there we can do violence to those we've othered. It's a fairly universal human trait. Culture plays into who you might other as well.
Wouldn't genocide be an effort to kill all Palestinans everywhere, like the millions in other Arab states?
You know, instead of focusing on the elected government of Gaza (who still has 57%+ support amongst Gazan civilians), who targeted 1200+ civilians intentionally in one of the worst terroist attacks of recent memory?
in whole or in part. Not that you care, just for anybody wondering what the Geneva convention says. Though people should not base their morality on law, even UN law.
Which is why Hamas who is intentionally co-locating (and the target of the attacks) in what would otherwise be protected targets is a war crime.
If Hamas was not using civilian shields and being aided by the majority of Gaza residents who support them, then absolutely it would be a war crime.
It's just that unlike many armchair legal scholars here, I'm aware that the intended terrorist targets make this a nonsense legal argument. Again, without Hamas there you'd be correct.
The convention isn't written in a vacuum. And misusing and diminishing the term genocide a bad idea.
"It's not genocide, but if it is they deserve it"
Fucking disgusting Nazi logic.
Stating a fact that's not convenient to your false narrative: "you're a Nazi". I realize there are people here who can not reason or be reasoned with---its sad.
Which fact? That Gaza civilians deserve to be slaughtered because of their alleged support of Hamas?
Honestly who are you trying to convince here?
no, collective punishment by genocide is about as Nazi as you get, then again, no wonder you got upset at it, you don't even view "brown people" as human, they are all Terrorists, every Gaza Child is nothing but another terrorist, so why not kill them?
The genocide of Palestinians by Israel has been going on way longer than Hamas has existed.
I am no armchair legal scholar, I 've already argued against placing too much value on legality. It is you on the other hand who tries to minimize the severity of Israel's wrongdoings by arguing pseudo-legalistic semantics.
If the 1948 convention never existed, Israel's actions would be just as reprehensible.
In case anyone is on the fence about this issue and doesn't realize this is easily disproven misinformation, there hasn't been an election for the president or legislature in Palestine since 2006.. Hamas has maintained a stranglehold on the region for seventeen years by discontinuing elections.
Even if that was true, this is a bad faith argument anyhow: it's entirely possible to focus on the atrocities being committed by both sides. Rivermonster simply seems to enjoy regurgitating Israeli propaganda.
Except that still males them the official and elected government. It's weird that you want to ignore the facts. That you decide they're illegitimate just bc it doesn't fit your narrative is what's wrong.
They still have majority support amongst residents. If there were an election today, they'd dominate. Who do you think would win? The PLA, Fatah, and West Bank can't get rid of them fast enough. They want Hamas in there, too.
I will remind you that current official members of the Israeli government mocked a holocaust survivor by saying they deserved it, and if it were up to him, it would have been twice as bad.
Don't look to me to defend Likud. They're war criminals.
yet the brown ones are WAY worse, got it
Why are you so fixated on PoC, are you a racist? Plus, the way you call them "brown ones" is really not okay. Your rhetoric makes it sound pejorative and derogatory.
And you do know that there are both Israelis and Jews who are PoC, right? It doesn't sound like you know that.
sure, there are Israeli and Jews that PoC, good thing the Israeli government sterilizes them oh wait this sort of undermines your joke and points out that the Israeli government of Netanyahu does hate these people
You're deflecting by virtue-signaling. Lolololol
That's true, the elected government of Gaza is a horrible fascist state and they are just as bad as the monsters who are gunning down civilians in that region. However that doesn't mean the people of Gaza aren't worth saving and don't have value. I just don't understand why, when we're talking about a relatively small strip of land, the Palestinians can't have their own self-governed state, free from interference by Israel. Or is that just too much to ask for in this world.