Man... Im watching Stargate sg1 with my kiddo.
My Plex server is down for a bit.. so I switched over to prime for an episode or two..
It's dark, it's audio is horrible, it's 4:3 formatted it's horribly compressed and it has commercials.
Talk about a poor viewing experience.
Not watching is better than watching...
"it's a strange game. The only way to win is not to play."
You shoukd consider cancelling prime, bezos doesn't need more moneys ^^
That's super tempting honestly. Idk that it benefits is at this point.
I canceled Prime a year ago, just before their announced price increase, and it’s been great. I sign up for free, month-long trials of Prime on their website a few times a year, and I just accept slower, free shipping the rest of the time.
Honestly... We spend $35 or so if we order from them.. so idk that it's saving us anything.
Thanks!
Stargate was 4:3, so there's that....
Yeah I really doubt streaming would change anything to 4:3.
Disney+ famously changed classic Simpsons to 16:9 and in the process, cropped enough to make some visual gags not work, but I can't imagine them preferring 4:3 over 16:9.
i've watched more than a few shows that have been brutally hacked into wide format from the original 4:3. the practice is horrible. they need to stop pulling that shit and let the viewer decide whether to crop the frame or not--or put a proper pan & scan up instead of a blind hack job and leave the original format available, too.
The worst part is that even buying SG1 on Bluray gives a bad experience, because they fucked up the 5.1 audio.
So what did the pirates do? Combined the Bluray video with the better DVD 5.1 audio! Best of both worlds.
Huh I wondered. That makes a lot of sense.
The version I have looks and sounds so much better than the blurays I have...
Tho like you said better audio, widescreen and I'm fairly certain it's been ai upscaled as well.
I'd have to go back and look but my physical disks don't hold a candle..
SG1 was shot in 4:3 until like season 8 or so.
SG-1 was shot in widescreen from day one, on cameras that had framing marks for 4:3 and 16:9. A 4:3 cut was sent to TV networks and a 16:9 cut was canned until the show was released on DVD.
Unless they were shooting with anamorphic lenses, that's still cropping 4:3 to 16:9.
The real issue is that AFAIK the show's never been remastered from film. All we have are DVD transfers - and filters on top of that.
SG1 was shot in film and mastered in 16:9. 16mm in the first 3 seasons, 35mm 3-7, and then they moved to digital HD cameras season 8 onwards.
Many shows from the 90s were [edit: shot on film]. That's why you can get a widescreen HD release of Seinfeld, among others.
That's not always a good thing. If it was meant to be 4:3 the extra space on the frame can have set rigging, lights, microphone booms, and in case of stunts even crash pads.
It's one of the reasons the HD rescan of Buffy:TVS sucks. That still needs a proper 4:3 HD remaster.
SG-1 was meant to be seen in 16:9
Right, but the general public only ever saw the broadcast versions, which were predominantly in 4:3. Also, Seinfeld was only shot in 4:3 as it's a multi cam sitcom. The widescreen version you've seen is a crop of the original 4:3 picture.
Depends on how you watched it. The DVDs that were being released were in 16:9. Depending on what country you were in, the DVDs sometimes came out before the later seasons were aired on a channel you could access, if at all.
The fact that other series can be re-released in HD is due the fact they are filmed on actual film, which was the point I was making clear.
Man... Im watching Stargate sg1 with my kiddo. My Plex server is down for a bit.. so I switched over to prime for an episode or two..
It's dark, it's audio is horrible, it's 4:3 formatted it's horribly compressed and it has commercials.
Talk about a poor viewing experience.
Not watching is better than watching...
"it's a strange game. The only way to win is not to play."
You shoukd consider cancelling prime, bezos doesn't need more moneys ^^
That's super tempting honestly. Idk that it benefits is at this point.
I canceled Prime a year ago, just before their announced price increase, and it’s been great. I sign up for free, month-long trials of Prime on their website a few times a year, and I just accept slower, free shipping the rest of the time.
Honestly... We spend $35 or so if we order from them.. so idk that it's saving us anything.
Thanks!
Stargate was 4:3, so there's that....
Yeah I really doubt streaming would change anything to 4:3.
Disney+ famously changed classic Simpsons to 16:9 and in the process, cropped enough to make some visual gags not work, but I can't imagine them preferring 4:3 over 16:9.
i've watched more than a few shows that have been brutally hacked into wide format from the original 4:3. the practice is horrible. they need to stop pulling that shit and let the viewer decide whether to crop the frame or not--or put a proper pan & scan up instead of a blind hack job and leave the original format available, too.
The worst part is that even buying SG1 on Bluray gives a bad experience, because they fucked up the 5.1 audio.
So what did the pirates do? Combined the Bluray video with the better DVD 5.1 audio! Best of both worlds.
Huh I wondered. That makes a lot of sense.
The version I have looks and sounds so much better than the blurays I have... Tho like you said better audio, widescreen and I'm fairly certain it's been ai upscaled as well. I'd have to go back and look but my physical disks don't hold a candle..
SG1 was shot in 4:3 until like season 8 or so.
SG-1 was shot in widescreen from day one, on cameras that had framing marks for 4:3 and 16:9. A 4:3 cut was sent to TV networks and a 16:9 cut was canned until the show was released on DVD.
Unless they were shooting with anamorphic lenses, that's still cropping 4:3 to 16:9.
The real issue is that AFAIK the show's never been remastered from film. All we have are DVD transfers - and filters on top of that.
SG1 was shot in film and mastered in 16:9. 16mm in the first 3 seasons, 35mm 3-7, and then they moved to digital HD cameras season 8 onwards.
Many shows from the 90s were [edit: shot on film]. That's why you can get a widescreen HD release of Seinfeld, among others.
That's not always a good thing. If it was meant to be 4:3 the extra space on the frame can have set rigging, lights, microphone booms, and in case of stunts even crash pads.
It's one of the reasons the HD rescan of Buffy:TVS sucks. That still needs a proper 4:3 HD remaster.
SG-1 was meant to be seen in 16:9
Right, but the general public only ever saw the broadcast versions, which were predominantly in 4:3. Also, Seinfeld was only shot in 4:3 as it's a multi cam sitcom. The widescreen version you've seen is a crop of the original 4:3 picture.
Depends on how you watched it. The DVDs that were being released were in 16:9. Depending on what country you were in, the DVDs sometimes came out before the later seasons were aired on a channel you could access, if at all.
The fact that other series can be re-released in HD is due the fact they are filmed on actual film, which was the point I was making clear.
Wow, TIL.
That's what I'm watching right now too! I rewatch every year or two.
Such a great universe! :)