A Vermont mom called police to talk to her son about stealing. He ended up handcuffed and sedated

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A Vermont mom called police to talk to her son about stealing. He ended up handcuffed and sedated
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What happened next that evening in May 2021 is the basis for a lawsuit by the mother alleging that Burlington police used excessive force and discriminated against her unarmed son, who is Black and has behavioral and intellectual disabilities.

After he failed to hand over the last of the stolen e-cigarettes, two officers physically forced him to do so, then Cathy Austrian’s son was handcuffed and pinned to the ground as he screamed and struggled, according to a civil lawsuit filed Tuesday and police body-camera video shared with The Associated Press by the American Civil Liberties Union of Vermont.

The teen eventually was injected with a ketamine, a sedative, then taken to a hospital, according to the lawsuit and video.

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Liberals: "GUNS BAD!"

Also Liberals: "Calling the cops will get you killed!"

Fuck am I supposed to do?!

POC, LGBT and women: "We're the biggest gun purchasing demographic because we see what's coming." That's our right, and everyone but white liberals seems to be exercising it.

Did I make you uncomfortable? Sure as hell hope I did. The problem is our culture, not people like me.

I'll defend you if it comes to it, do my damndest if it comes to "trains", but please stop whining about gun owners. Stop whining about, "They want to exterminate trans people!" Get a fucking clue and work towards self-defense. FFS, stop losing votes.

I often read, "But gosh! What if the pigs exterminate ME personally?!" Either grow a pair and die with your boots on, or get the fuck out my face. This isn't a schoolyard tussle. We're entering a fight for American democracy, and for you gay and trans folks, it's a fight for your right to continue life.

Get in touch with your local John brown gun club. Not every lefty is anti gun.

But they should be

Gun control laws exist at all because the right wanted to grab guns from Black Panthers who were simply defending themselves. Even the "gun grabber" rhetoric that comes from the right is ultimately projection.

Why do you want people uncomfortable with you having a gun? Do you have some sort of need to instill fear in people who aren't doing you any harm?

either you didnt read what they wrote or you are making the worst bad faith interpretation intentionally

This is what they wrote:

POC, LGBT and women: “We’re the biggest gun purchasing demographic because we see what’s coming.” That’s our right, and everyone but white liberals seems to be exercising it.

Did I make you uncomfortable? Sure as hell hope I did. The problem is our culture, not people like me.

Seems like maybe you didn't read it.

i guess i didnt consider that you might have a problem with reading comprehension

Ah, insulting me rather than explaining what I supposedly misread. Sounds to me like I didn't actually misread anything and you just want to attack me for not being afraid of guns for some reason.

Sorry, I'm still not afraid of guns and you can't insult me into being afraid of them.

Nobody saying you should be afraid of guns. They're saying that you should be uncomfortable with disarming vulnerable people.

That's not what they said.

Again, this is what they said:

POC, LGBT and women: “We’re the biggest gun purchasing demographic because we see what’s coming.” That’s our right, and everyone but white liberals seems to be exercising it.

Did I make you uncomfortable? Sure as hell hope I did. The problem is our culture, not people like me.

I don't know why you're trying to gaslight me when this is the second time I've pasted what they said.

Now I guess you'll insult me again?

You might be pasting it repeatedly but are you reading it? They're not trying to make you afraid. They're trying to explain the vulnerable people need guns and youre suggesting they shouldn't have them.

and youre suggesting they shouldn’t have them.

That is a lie.

Why are you lying?

My bad. you didn't actually say that. You're just arguing with someone who is trying to make sure the vulnerable people have the means to protect themselves.

That is another lie. I asked them a question and you started arguing with me.

Stop lying.

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Liberals don't say "guns bad." They say "let's make sure only people who pass a background check can buy them."

But I guess the truth isn't relevant to your narrative.

I mean it's the same problem broad labels always have ... liberals the term is for everything left of Bernie Sanders to the ball park Joe Manchin depending on who you're talking to.

Guess what? If you had good laws the other side wouldnt have guns either. What we propose? No guns and a well educated police force. You in america have the worst combination of crazy people like you, hoping for the day they can shoot someone, gun fetishism, idiotic gun laws and a completely untrained and aggressive police force.

You'd think if liberals actually believed Trump is a fascist and American democracy is on the ballot, they'd arm themselves to be prepared.

What exactly would you do if the US army went fascist? Think you'd be pretty out gunned lol

So were the vietnamese and afghanis

I don't think wars fought half way around the globe are quite the same as on your home turf.

Yeah, people would get much more upset if they attack weddings and school buses with drones locally.

I meant logistics.

I'm sure people were plenty upset with that locally.

Cool, so Russia and China will be supplying us advanced weapons and flying jets for us?

It would be in their interest to encourage an American insurrection, so yes probably

Even if they didn't if 'lack of advanced fighter jets' gonna be the reason you're not going to oppose your own government if it went fascist then there's a name for people like that. It's just fascist.

Love seeing liberals get called out on their weird takes

What's your point here? You both treat "liberals" (whatever that means) as being one homogenous group incapable of nuance or differing views.

People buy guns to protect themselves from people with guns.

Weird that this problem doesn't happen in most countries isn't it. I'm sure it's nothing to do with the gun laws.

Most other countries didn't have so many guns to begin w/, but they're here to stay. If we didn't already have so many, then sure we should get rid of them. But they're not really going anywhere. I'm sure you've heard there are more guns than Americans?

"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. May as well make the problem worse!"

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