Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has replaced the Hide Desktop icon with Copilot.
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I must admit, "Linux becomes the refuge of luddites" was never on any bingo card I could have conceived of for 202X.
Huh? Isn't this about Microsoft changing out a button with a well established use, in order to take advantage of muscle memory and the unobservant?
Don't think it's much to do with people opposing technological advancement, but rather with opposing another company wanting to making a fool of them.
More over being a luddite on Linux is like a fish trying to breathe in a public swimming pool; it works until the chlorine poisoning sets in.
Linux adopts new technology constantly.
The difference is that Linux generally adopts new technology because it enhances the user experience in some way, and not because it maximizes ad revenue and telemetry.
Very true.
Ehn, one can survive pretty long with a stable distro.
Yes, but eventually that LTS goes EOL and you'll have to move from that abandonware.
Ubuntu LTS versions can last 10-12 years before EOL.
Yes, 10-12y to swim, slowly in-taking chlorine overtime...
Then when you do finally switch, you find yourself in a similar yet vastly different swimming pool and the cycle starts over.
Imagine when eventually the LTS goes Wayland only and Luddites go : "I'mma just stay with my abandonware forever."
Luddites hate adapting to new technology as a character trait, it's what makes them a Luddite.
Luddites will often choose to deal with decrepit, vulnerable, abandonware then change to something new because they don't want to spend a week learning new "muscle memory".
This is just another gripe about how Microsoft is putting AI into everything. If it's really just about the position of a button (which apparently can be changed in the settings if you still want it there) it's even more petty. Certainly not worth posting about on a general technology community.
I work in IT, and every time I do an install (sometimes new computers, sometimes not) for someone I see Microsoft's little News widget they put on the Taskbar, the one that pops up a huge window if you mouse over it. Every time I see that, I ask the person if they ever use it, and they always say no. Then I ask them if they want it gone, and they always say yes, usually with some kind of relief. It's a matter of two clicks to do it, easier than going into the settings menu like your screenshot, but every computer I haven't been on previously has it. Now, I'd wonder why Microsoft would put something on the Taskbar that is, in my experience, universally disliked. To me it reeks of the pathetic, groveling, "I'll suck your dick" energy they have when someone installs Chrome.
Windows 10 changed a lot over the course of its lifetime, and while some feature are good, like Dark Mode, they're mostly useless or downright bad. So putting something that most people will never use and will greatly confuse and annoy the average user in a place that has been dedicated to a single function for at the very least Windows 10's entire lifetime (I think it's there in 8 and maybe 7 also) for seemingly no reason other than to fuck with people's muscle memory is just one more move very worthy of griping about, no matter how easy it is for users to turn off. Because 99% of users just won't, because they aren't confident enough to go futzing around in the settings. But they'll still get whatever god awful popup this button shows every time they try to show desktop like they've been doing for over a decade. It's yet another change that nobody asked for, nobody will use, and that the user will have to remember that it's different now for no reason.
The Luddites of Linux are one's desperately trying to convince people that Xorg is perfectly flawless and that Wayland is vaporware.
A luddite should ideally not involve in Display Server wars
Why would people you call luddites even care about your opinion really?
Come back with your Wayland ad when there's something like CWM or FVWM for it.
It's simply functionally inferior now. Calling people luddites won't change that.
Literally, YOU right now.
Also, this is the linux community; everyone has an opinion on everyone else's opinion.
LabWC, Enlightenment, Wayfire, Weston, Sway, Hyperland, Vivarium, DWL, Velox, etc.
It's functionally superior in many ways, and here's the real kicker, its actually maintainable and expandable.
Xorg HDR when? How many decades and still don't have HDR? LMAO.
I'm done waiting for Xorg to improve and implement features that simply will never be.
Just fyi this isn’t the Linux community. It’s just “technology”.
Granted on lemmy it’s basically just one big Linux community.
Didn't even realize lmao.
I'm improving the community by answering demonstrably stupid opinions. So I don't care about you in particular.
Wrong.
I don't use HDR and I don't care. Just like you don't care about what I use.
Yes, I'm sure somewhere 10 years after I'll use it after it's been finally expanded to something usable.
Too bad
You answer you're own opinions? funny.
CWM : stacking window manger
LabWC, Enlightenment, Wayfire, Weston, and Sway, etc.
FVWM : Tab Window Manager
DWL, Hyprland, Sway again, etc.
You're factually disproven.
Luddite : one who is opposed to technological change.
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This is incomprehensible, you are arguing not having seen once what you are arguing about.
If you want a 1:1 equivalent WM, then you'll just have to build it yourself scrub.
The WMs I listed can already do everything CWM & FVWM can, then some.
I can send you my FVWM config and hear how are you going to achieve that.
First I'd start with either DWL, Hyprland, or possibly Sway, then read the documentation re-creating everything as close as possible. (◠‿◕)
All the features are there, just glue it yourself. Just the same way you'd convert those same configs to an i3 & DWM equivalent.
If you can't deal with that and want a 1:1 WM, then you'll just have to build it yourself or convince one of the other 3 people who still use FVWM to do it.
Do these things allow me to define functions and to call them on focus change, on windowshade, on iconification, on other events? Can I evaluate text returned by a command spawned in those as part of my config, at any moment? Can these functions differentiate between windows by mask? By state? BTW, can I have custom states? Can I have conditionals there? Schedule those functions? Change that schedule?
I wouldn't. These are different things for a different workflow.
Where there?
I know you are not an adult.
Yes.
And nobody cares about your workflow, sorry. Go convince one of 3 other people to make your 1:1 equivalent.
Consult the official documentation and community configs, etc. It not that fuckin hard dude.
You're the one who immediately started name calling trying to "correct" me with incorrect nonsense in a different thread, dumbass. Not to mention, "luddite" wasn't even directed at you personally, you applied it to yourself.
OK, that's my config: https://pastebin.com/AFLe2x8N (messy, but not too much). Until you replicate it for something under Wayland, I don't care.
You people are fucking crazy and will literally find anything to fight about. Normal users don't care about this sort of shit and it's the thing that turns people completely off when they inevitably run into a problem with Linux.
This has nothing to do with any of kind of Linux problem.
It's just Luddites crying because Linux is moving on from outdated flawed software that has a bunch of unfixable problems.
Same shit happens with windows, my guy. "WHAAAAAAAA MY WINDOWS XP/98 WHAAAAAA", at least it's often partially valid for windows...
Luddites are not exclusive to any particular OS.
If someone is having a Linux issue, they just need to ask. Literally just ask me, or the vast major of other users, we'll literally provide better tech support than Windows will ever have.
yeah I've seen the windows support forums, every official response either misses the point of the question or the answer is straight up wrong.
What gets me is the replies like "just wipe it & reinstall the whole thing".
Yeah right, like I'mma spend an entire hour wiping, reformatting and reinstalling Windows, then varying additional time reconfiguring everything for a problem that likely has an extremely simple solution but they're too lazy to gather the necessary information to actually solve it.
Assuming that the Windows installer doesn't fuck up and I have to restart the install process again, which has happened to me several times.
At least Linux takes 5-10m tops to install for the user friendly distros.
Even I, a Linux user who's spent hours upon days debugging kernel issues for my hardware can see how fuckin stupid that shit copout advice is.
Yeah, I don't know why they devolve back to tribalism. I just installed the thing and the programs I had to use and just...kept using it since I didn't want to pirate windows xd. No need to shout to others what's my favorite fake non Unix distro or anything.
This is not tribalism.
This is people crying because Windows moved from 95 to 98 for comparison.
Xorg has a plethora of unfixable issues, and people are mad that we can't & don't want to stick to it for all eternity, crippling the hell out of Linux growth & innovation.
I just hope they get rid of the ancient stuff to make the neckbeards seethe xd
If Linux Luddites could TELNET into Lemmy, they would be very angry with you!
"And the lord said unto John, come forth and install gentoo."
What do you mean? Vocal parts of Linux community is about 80% luddites
friendly reminder that https://theconversation.com/im-a-luddite-you-should-be-one-too-163172
That article attempts to paint Luddism in a positive light and then tries to redefine the term to mean something very for "neo-Luddites" anyway. I don't find it particularly compelling or well reasoned.